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Sorry Halifax
But I've just taken out my £15k savings (it took 3 go's as well... )
I'm sure a few people on here will say I'm crying wolf...but it's my cash, and I'm not risking it.
I'm sure a few people on here will say I'm crying wolf...but it's my cash, and I'm not risking it.
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Up to £35k and you are guaranteed to get it back, underwritten by the FSA (i.e. the government). There is no risk.
It people like you that fuel these situations. Bet you had your car full to the brim and ten jerry cans of petrol at home during the fuel shortages and helped clear the supermarkets of bottled water, bread, etc. during the flooding.
Panic, panic, panic.
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I'm with CD on this one. It's people panicing that perpetuate the situation a la NR.
Although i went to the Nationwide yesterday to take out some money and they said i couldn't have more than £500 per day from the counter unless i ordered it?!? WTF? Useless, give me my money!!!
Although i went to the Nationwide yesterday to take out some money and they said i couldn't have more than £500 per day from the counter unless i ordered it?!? WTF? Useless, give me my money!!!
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Up to £35k and you are guaranteed to get it back, underwritten by the FSA (i.e. the government). There is no risk.
It people like you that fuel these situations. Bet you had your car full to the brim and ten jerry cans of petrol at home during the fuel shortages and helped clear the supermarkets of bottled water, bread, etc. during the flooding.
Panic, panic, panic.
(plus no.. I never filled my car up in the fuel crisis..I live 1/2 mile from my office.. )
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I would say HBOS, regardless of current speculation, is one of the safest places to have your money - The Government would never let it go - It is an "AIG/Northern Rock" situation.
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Give that a month until the final paycheck is spunked on beer at uni, and the over draft is maxed out
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Of course, what you gonna do? Stuff it in your mattress? You might as well 'cos HBOS is a safer bet then alot of other UK banks.
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All I had in my days as a student was a fookin bus pass or a "backey" on someones pushbike
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Rumours,rumours,rumours.Or true?
These city boys really concern me.I have become so cynical about the stock market.It seems to me,just slip a bit of good news out and shares go up.Slip some doom out and hey presto...down they go.Not saying they all do it at all but it worries me.I don't trust anyone now.
How can anyone put a stop to it ? I sometimes think it is the banks' own fault by not simply stepping up and keeping everyone fully and properly informed.
Mind you it seems everyones dirty washing is coming out anyway
These city boys really concern me.I have become so cynical about the stock market.It seems to me,just slip a bit of good news out and shares go up.Slip some doom out and hey presto...down they go.Not saying they all do it at all but it worries me.I don't trust anyone now.
How can anyone put a stop to it ? I sometimes think it is the banks' own fault by not simply stepping up and keeping everyone fully and properly informed.
Mind you it seems everyones dirty washing is coming out anyway
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Given the problems that occurred when there was a run on NR with internet banking going down or crashing and being left down, I'd say you've done the right thing.
Though if you had envisaged it being a nest-egg rather than needed shortly for building works, maybe I'd be crying "c*ck!" also.
J.
Though if you had envisaged it being a nest-egg rather than needed shortly for building works, maybe I'd be crying "c*ck!" also.
J.
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The banks are actually "fairly" innocent in all of this. Especially the UK banks
Banks were sold triple A investments, that were bad. They were sold repackaged sub prime mortgages that disguised the risk - It was totally legal - its just that people assumed that because the system worked with a 2% sub-primne market, there was no reason it wouldn't work as the sub-prime market grew. It didn't.
All of the sudden these triple A investment (which are all buy guaranteed not to lose money) start losing money, and banks find that have an indeterminate amount of exposure ot the problem.
And that's half the problem - Banks had no idea just how big their problems were, because thier exposure ot the sub-prome market was unknown.
So they stop lending to each other. And since a lot of banks work on the basis that they lend at a higher interest rate than they borrow, the whole thing ceases up.
I think the end result of all this will be that banks will work how they used to; Only lending money they actually have.
Banks were sold triple A investments, that were bad. They were sold repackaged sub prime mortgages that disguised the risk - It was totally legal - its just that people assumed that because the system worked with a 2% sub-primne market, there was no reason it wouldn't work as the sub-prime market grew. It didn't.
All of the sudden these triple A investment (which are all buy guaranteed not to lose money) start losing money, and banks find that have an indeterminate amount of exposure ot the problem.
And that's half the problem - Banks had no idea just how big their problems were, because thier exposure ot the sub-prome market was unknown.
So they stop lending to each other. And since a lot of banks work on the basis that they lend at a higher interest rate than they borrow, the whole thing ceases up.
I think the end result of all this will be that banks will work how they used to; Only lending money they actually have.
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She's very good at her job, As I said before, the money is needed in the next few weeks for interim payments of my extension.... now I (and my wife) felt that any HBOS issues may hinder these payments... no one knows what's going to happen in the next month or so... We chose to take our savings out to manage it outside HBOS. Nothing wrong with that.
It's not me (us) who are driving the shares of HBOS down, it's the stock market. HBOS is obviously top of the investment buyers miss list (until Lloyds put their money where their mouth is of course)
Of course, what you gonna do? Stuff it in your mattress? You might as well 'cos HBOS is a safer bet then alot of other UK banks.
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I will... as I said..It's my money... to invest as I see fit...!
I'm quite happy with my choice ..
As has been previously mentioned, your money is safe, you are creating a situation (helping too). Your money is very safe in HBOS, we have very large resources and are still making money, not losing it, just not making as much as we were.
Of course, what you gonna do? Stuff it in your mattress? You might as well 'cos HBOS is a safer bet then alot of other UK banks.
Geezer
I'm quite happy with my choice ..
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But no one lost their money with NR. And the people that left their money in there now have the best protected accounts in the country
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It's the people that remove their money from HBOS because they are worried their money might dissapear overnight that are being silly.
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To be honest though, pricing ABS and MBS assets has always been a bit of a black hole science, and i bet a lot of risk managers trusted their trading arms for valuations because there simply wasn't any other alternative. The margins were just too lucrative to bother asking the awkward questions. Burnt fingers all round.
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Well i think the problem also was that low risk investors, like pension funds etc got caught up in it, again, due to being sold repackaged loans that on the surface looked to have a guaranteed return, but underneath were something a pension fund investor would run a mile from.
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Removing savings reduces the bank's liquidity and actually makes the situation worse. Justify it all you like but the upshot is panic panic.
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under the mattress = potential high risk
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You are a c88k.
Why didnt you say in the first place you were taking it out for building work?
Instead "hey look at me, im taking 15k out of the bank in trouble"
Why didnt you say in the first place you were taking it out for building work?
Instead "hey look at me, im taking 15k out of the bank in trouble"