fatscoobfella1

iTrader: (1)

Just a bit of help here guys please..

Bought some tickets off the net(not ebay) and paid by Paypal..

Anyway,i was waiting for these tickets for a week and was supplied a tracking number..This turned out to be false..

Seller went quiet for a few days,so i put in a Paypal refund claim.. Seller gave paypal another tracking number to Paypal,so there investigating it at the moment.

In the meantime i bombarded the seller with calls and a few texts to try and get a reaction(nothing foul or libelous)..Anyway it worked and we started communicating again..

She has finally admitted that she was desperate for money and sold the tickets to 2 people to get the cash,obviously i didnt get anything.
So i asked for my money back,and she says that she is in bad financial difficulty,and will repay me on payday in a week or so..

Wont hold my breath..


SO... Whats my options?? Just wait for Paypal,do you think they will come through and get my money back?

I have got 2 addresses for her...One in Rushden and one in Thrapston,both in Northampton..This is probably a 250 mile round trip for me,or i would give her a call..Non of which may be real of course..

Any help or idea's appreciated..

TIA

Suresh

Call the police? She's admitted to fraudulently taking your money.

fatherpierre

Do you have the conversations logged or was it just over the phone?

mart360

"get yer trousers on, your nicked"

FP, gets the ARU on standby,


This should make the Hightee thread look tame..


Mart

magepaster

iTrader: (2)

Yep, call police. You MAY get your money back but she WILL try to f*** you over before you get it, if you get it.

fatherpierre

TBH you're fooked with paypal.

They don't give a toss other than where they get their wedge from, and don't help the loser. One of the world's largest (if not THE) largest facilitators of fraud when you add their owners, ebay into the equation.

Can't un-recommend them enough.

You're even less likely to see your money if your address is paypal confirmed, as you can't do a chargeback if she sent something to you and it was registered - even if it was an empty crisp packet.

fatscoobfella1

iTrader: (1)

Pierre,she hasnt sent anything too me....She has just made up the tracking numbers..

I dont have the conversations logged,but i do have the texts saved that she has admitted stuff in.. Also the addresses that she gave and the pair of tracking numbers..


Will the police be interested at all ?? Personally i have little faith in them..

Suresh

Tell them you saw her speeding and you reckon her car had been de-catted.

fatherpierre

It's false representation, so has to be taken and looked into by the force where she lives.

If the tracking numbers are false then paypal should know this and reverse the payment - but they take ages.

fatscoobfella1

iTrader: (1)

Paypal have said they will look into it and let me know by the 12th(tommorrow)... I did call the paypal helpline and spoke to an adviser,wasnt really much help im afraid.. He just said that they will check the tracking number and get back to me in the specified time..

Already looked up the Northampton HQ address and number... may give them a call and see if they have any advice..

fatherpierre

Good luck!

Get your refund then close your paypal account down - terrible company with a terrible attitude other than to profit.

fatscoobfella1

iTrader: (1)

Yea.. Think i will need it!!

I do realise paypal and ebay are sh*te,just the fee's are enough to get ya back up... Just ebay is easy to get rid of all ya crap and stuff it seemed like a good idea.. And to be fair i have bought and sold 229 items upto now and this is the 1st prob.. And its nothin to do with Ebay/paypal really,just a young lady shyster who is tryin to scam me..

I will get her in the sh*t though if she dont cough up,that will just make me more determined!!

gpssti4

iTrader: (6)

If she has funds in her account then you should get your money back. If not then you've little chance of it. It seems that she's in financial difficulty so she's probably withdrawn the money anyway. Looks bad for you.

On another note, Paypal are sh*te anyway. I paid a deposit for a car which was significantly not as described. The seller refused to refund my deposit so I thought okay, Paypal will. No, as far as they're concerned it's an intangable item. I mean WTF, how can a car not be an item? I don't use Paypal anymore.

fatscoobfella1

iTrader: (1)

Just got another address for her!!

Its in Rushden... Anyone know the area,think im going for a visit!!

fatscoobfella1

iTrader: (1)

Just an update......

She has finally repaid me,and money has been transferred back into my account and now after5 days,the money is showing...

I feel i have been pretty lucky considering i found this on the net a few days ago ....

Rushden pair spared jail over credit scam - Northants ET

Thats my girl!!!!

Now funds are cleared into my account,there is no way it can be grabbed back is there???

movi-star

iTrader: (1)

Your money is safe now. Im quite a big eBay seller and never had any problems with Paypal and when Ive needed to get my money back they have done so everytime.

Rushden is just down the road from me, not a particually nice town!

fatscoobfella1

iTrader: (1)

Ah..

Thanx for that....

Considering the tale in the court im suprised i got my money back,i think it was because my claim is pending,and if i went to the police after the court ruling,i dare say she would be off to the big house..!!

PaulC72

8.5k is that all god if I was going to risk getting caught for fraud it would be so much more than that.

Glad you got it back anyway, a lucky escape.

fatscoobfella1

iTrader: (1)

Yea it was.....

Considering i got this from paypal today........

Dear XXXXXXXXXXXXX

After careful review, we have concluded our investigation of the Buyer
Complaint described below.

We have decided in your favour, however, we were unable to recover any
funds from the seller's account. As stated in the PayPal User Agreement,
recovery of funds associated with a Buyer Complaint cannot be guaranteed.

Please know that we will make our best effort to recover the funds in
question if they become available in the seller's account in the future,
and will take appropriate action against the seller. Such action may
include issuing a warning, a temporary restriction, or terminating the
account. Keep in mind that PayPal uses a number of factors, including
member complaints, to determine when to take action. Due to privacy laws,
we cannot discuss the details of any action taken. We hope you understand
our policy and that it reassures you that you are safe using PayPal.


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Transaction Details
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Seller's Name: Jessica Fensom
Seller's Email: jessfensom@googlemail.com
Seller's Transaction ID:XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

Transaction Date: 1 Sep 2008
Transaction Amount: -80.00 GBP
Your Transaction ID: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Case Number: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

Buyer's Transaction ID:XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX



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