What's the latest on National ID Cards?
What's the latest on National ID Cards?
09 August 2008, 05:58 PM
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Quite - we have to identify ourselves to the state it seems. I quite like this blog post on the subject :-
"Let me make this clear; my identity is just that, mine. It is not yours, it is not the state’s, it is mine and mine alone. It is up to me to decide who will be privy to information about that identity. I will not, absolutely not, be fingerprinted like a criminal in order to satisfy your obsessive control freakery. This is not negotiable…
We are opposed [to ID cards] because they will make minimal or no contribution to the prevention of terrorism, illegal immigration or whatever the problem du jour is, while causing maximum inconvenience and invasion of privacy for the law abiding citizen. They will reverse the relationship between you, the representative of the state (servant) and us, the electorate (master). I recommend that you remind yourself of this principle. I do not intend to serve you or prove to you who I am, because it is none of your business."
"Let me make this clear; my identity is just that, mine. It is not yours, it is not the state’s, it is mine and mine alone. It is up to me to decide who will be privy to information about that identity. I will not, absolutely not, be fingerprinted like a criminal in order to satisfy your obsessive control freakery. This is not negotiable…
We are opposed [to ID cards] because they will make minimal or no contribution to the prevention of terrorism, illegal immigration or whatever the problem du jour is, while causing maximum inconvenience and invasion of privacy for the law abiding citizen. They will reverse the relationship between you, the representative of the state (servant) and us, the electorate (master). I recommend that you remind yourself of this principle. I do not intend to serve you or prove to you who I am, because it is none of your business."
10 August 2008, 09:00 PM
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The determined will copy them and clone them. It therefore probably makes serious crime and terrorism easier, but dodging Blockbuster fines harder!
Politicians squandering our money again just to be 'seen' to be doing something. Pathetic!
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Politicians squandering our money again just to be 'seen' to be doing something. Pathetic!
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10 August 2008, 09:58 PM
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A couple of things: that story may suggest that you can add or remove data to a new passport, what it doesn't explain is how this would be accepted as a genuine passport in a 'live' system - the golden reader may well accept the data as legitimate because it conforms to the right protocols and uses the right layout and type iof data.
However, in a real live system there is an additional step whereby you would have to check with a certificate authority to ensure that the digital certificates contained within the passport are genuine. The checksum used when the data was first put on the chip would be changed when the data was changed. Unless you were somehow able to adjust the checksum and manipulate the certificate authority, the passport would be returned as invalid when read.
This is a slightly simplistic view, but it shows that the Times' story is incomplete. As an aside, my company is involved with providing equipment that is used in the validation and checking stages for PKI systems, around which any ID scheme would be based.
We have had enquiries about providing equipment for a PKI system involving 100's of millions of certificates - the end customer has not been revealed, but you can draw your own conclusions as to who it is
However, in a real live system there is an additional step whereby you would have to check with a certificate authority to ensure that the digital certificates contained within the passport are genuine. The checksum used when the data was first put on the chip would be changed when the data was changed. Unless you were somehow able to adjust the checksum and manipulate the certificate authority, the passport would be returned as invalid when read.
This is a slightly simplistic view, but it shows that the Times' story is incomplete. As an aside, my company is involved with providing equipment that is used in the validation and checking stages for PKI systems, around which any ID scheme would be based.
We have had enquiries about providing equipment for a PKI system involving 100's of millions of certificates - the end customer has not been revealed, but you can draw your own conclusions as to who it is
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