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Because its offensive

Ban 'chav', says Fabians chief | UK news | The Guardian

I though that was the point

swampster

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Hang on my definition of a chav isn't white working class....

It's a fooking idle laybout, on benefits because he can't be arsed to get a job (not because he can't), causing grief to anyone and everyone whilst loitering somewhere with a bottle of white lightning 'cider'...

Lisawrx

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That's more along the lines that I was thinking. I wouldn't use it as a blanket term for all white working class (maybe something to do with I am white working class. ). I would think most people using the term chav, mean more than just someone who is working class (or not working as the case may be).

GC8

Ive always preferred calling the dirty scrubbers, just that: dirty scrubbers. Im not working class, but I too am certain that charvers are part of an underclass and nothing at all to do with working class people. Tom Hampson is another well-meaning but hopelessly out of touch liberal and the Fabian Society is a left-wing think tank; that says it all really.

mickywrx

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No idea where the term "Chav" came from, they were always "Charva's" up here.

mickywrx

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Emperor Nero speaks.

GC8

Brillaint! Ive been negged for saying that Im not working class. Thats one up for the proletariat. Its amusing that whoever has negged me wasnt sharp enough to understand why I mentioned it.

New_scooby_04

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Bonehead

The stereotype description applied to members of the white working class is offensive to a group that cannot defend itself, according to Tom Hampson, editorial director of the Fabian Society.

Cannot defend themselves?!?
They're the ******* that keep stabbing the public.

Lee247

You know what, I care not what is offensive. I am sick to death of this mamby pamby garbage.

Now then, who shall I call a Chav

Spoon

This never was the reason for the term 'chav' though. What you describe is and has always been plain scum as far as I know. A chav was a somebody with money that could buy style in terms of material goods but could never possess it personally.

That Michael Carrol springs to mind as a prime example.

The word gets misused now to describe anybody that is socially challenged.

Tam the bam

We call them NEDs up here which actually means, Non Educated Delinquent, so yes drop the term 'Chav' and call them 'Neds' instead, you know it makes sense

c_maguire

Their idea of style is completely different to mine, but your description and your example are completely right. I have heard chav was an abbreviation where ch was council house, but I can't remember what the av was.
Kevin

GC8

There are lots of 'definitions' made-up by people. Chav come from the Geordie Charver, which oroginally meant a dirty woman...

shep ppp

Thought it was Council House And Violent

EddScott

Beat me too it.

It was on Breakfast news this am. They made a point that if chav is a term for a particular part of society, why are there not calls to ban snob, toff etc.

Love the benefit pic

Wurzel

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hang on a sec!! So they are reporting something that the think tank hasn't actually said yet! So just how exactly does the Guardian know a week in advance what the think tank is going to say a week later?????

Kind of takes the whole point of a think tank away doesn't it? as it is obviously scripted in advance so why bother having these think tanks?? or am I missing some point here?

MrNoisy

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PMSL - spot on mate spot on.

And what a surprise...
The article's from the Guardian - that well known newspaper that often publishes articles for the people that live in their gated communities away from the real world and away from those "nasty working class people."

If I was in power I think I'd start by having all think tanks "emptied" LOL. After all, they either come up with complete cr*p or tell us the ******* obvious anyway...

unclebuck

Ok - how about Underclass Scum instead then?

Scoobychick

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I don't think the term 'chav' is offensive enough to describe them, even '****ing chav' doesn't somehow do it, maybe it's time we invented a new word?

Leslie

Its a word for a particular type of offensive work shy lout and as such they fully deserve the name.

Les

Tidgy

i hope the tax payer dont pay for a thinktank thats that stupid lol

The Zohan

Spot on, it has nothing to do with where people live - Chav is a state of mind and outlook on life, more to do with spongers, trouble makers, yobs, wasters and pillocks.

Fabian Society showing just how out of touch they really are.

New_scooby_04

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Chelmsford average, I believe, mate.

Very apt!

Yours is good too though!

GC8

Theyre all made up. Its from the Geordie charver, which in turn has its roots in a Romany word.

Dream Weaver

I thought it came from Chatham originally?

Either way, the meaning has been lost as it never referred to just workshy *******s, it could be applied to those with cash as well, the Beckhams, Westbrook etc etc.

I don't think chav is offensive enough for the scum of this country.

Julio Jordio

I always thought it came from CHeltenham AVerage too!

GC8

Well: you live and learn. The other 'definitions' have come from people sat about trying to fit words into the letters c...h...a...v...

The Trooper 1815

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Call them "Stills".....................because their still Chavs!

MrNoisy

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Yes, I'd heard that was where it had come from too.

Instead of Chav, how about WAF's? Workshy, Arrogant F**kers