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Old 16 July 2008, 03:09 PM
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Default Synthetic oil.......where does it come from?

I've tried Google, but the only site about WHERE synthetic oil comes from that it came up with wouldn't load.

The reason I'm asking is that the price of a synthetic oil-change seems to have gone through the roof, but does it NEED to have done so?

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Old 16 July 2008, 03:13 PM
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Synthetic oils are just that; Man made. There is no real reason for them to have reflected the recent rises in oil prices as far as I am aware.
Old 16 July 2008, 03:25 PM
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Synthetic oil - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Synthetic oil is oil consisting of chemical compounds which were not originally present in crude oil (petroleum), but were artificially made (synthesized) from other compounds. Synthetic oil could be made to be a substitute for petroleum, or specially made to be a substitute for a lubricant oil, such as conventional (or mineral) motor oil refined from petroleum. When a synthetic oil or synthetic fuel is made as a substitute for petroleum, it is generally produced because of a shortage of petroleum or because petroleum is too expensive[citation needed]. When synthetic oil is made as a substitute for lubricant refined from petroleum, it is generally to provide superior mechanical and chemical properties than those found in traditional mineral oils.
Old 16 July 2008, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
I've tried Google, but the only site about WHERE synthetic oil comes from that it came up with wouldn't load.

The reason I'm asking is that the price of a synthetic oil-change seems to have gone through the roof, but does it NEED to have done so?

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Many products marketed as 'synthetic' arent actually synthetic, so they will be affected by the rising cost of oil.
Old 16 July 2008, 04:30 PM
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You've just opened a BIG can of worms. As there are a number of different types of branded "synthetic" oils

Most off the shelf synthetic oil use mineral base stocks.

That does not immediately make them bad, just misleading. The only characteristic they do posses is consistancy. I.E A bottle from one batch will have the same properties from another bottle from another batch (in theory ).

Here is quite an informaive website: Synthetic

Just take it with a pinch of salt - as it is trying to sell you something
Old 16 July 2008, 04:43 PM
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The only oils that shouldnt be greatly affected by the oil price increases are 100% PAO synthetics. How many 'synthetic' oils are made from PAO base stock without any mineral oil though?
Old 16 July 2008, 05:56 PM
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Thumbs down Good old reliable wikipedia.

Originally Posted by wikipedia
... such as conventional (or mineral) motor oil refined from petroleum.
Hmmm ...
Old 16 July 2008, 06:13 PM
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Synthetic oil comes from Halfords or Mota-Bits when I need it
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Originally Posted by GC8
The only oils that shouldn't be greatly affected by the oil price increases are 100% PAO synthetics. How many 'synthetic' oils are made from PAO base stock without any mineral oil though?
I know motul and silkolene don't use mineral base stocks, just bought another 5 litres from oilman and the price was relatively unchanged from last time.
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In theory, crude price should have little effect on mineral oil prices; As essentially it is surplus.

To create xx amount of fuel oils xx amount of lubricating oil is produced as a by-product, as with tar and gas.

Demand is much higher for fuel that will ever be for lubrication oil, but lubrication oil HAS to be produced in order to make fuel.

Of course, before someone shoots me down (there always is ) this is IN THEORY, accountants may bump up prices to offset costs of crude and restrictions on what they can allow to charge for fuel.
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...or simply to profiteer; if you can believe that the oil industry would stoop so low.....
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Its a good question though.

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