alcazar

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Making speeches about the Mugabe election not being democratic.

When did we vote for you as prime minister*, you tw@?

Alcazar

*......Yes, I know, we don't vote for prime ministers, but we have always voted before for a party, knowing who it's leader is, and knowing that HE/SHE will be PM

Shark Man

Any other prime minister would have done the honourable thing and called an election or given the public an indication of when an election was going to be held.

Granted, John Major was in office for over a year before calling an election, but I recall that he wasn't disliked anywhere near as much by the public; Proven by him winning when he did call an election. Also he did have a genuine excuse, that being the Gulf War; What's Gordon's excuse? A wibbly wobbly economy - of which he was actively involved in managing? Bearing in mind, Major had to contend with similar economic issues also.

The Zohan

Gutless Gordon - lives up to his nickname anyway.

He did not call one and said a year ago(i am paraphrasing) "Judge me on my results at the next general election"

So far, so good eh Gordon

Leslie

What plonkers he and his cronies really are! And how about the democracy involved in breaking their promise over the referendum over the Lisbon Constitution. (its not a treaty at all!) I wonder what they are in line for should the Eu get its way over federalisation.

Les

f1_fan

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The issue was the same for John Major as it is for Gordon Brown, the fact he may or may not have been disliked as much is irrelevant. Personally I detested the weak willed spineless non-entity of a man, but at least he was better than Thatcher, who wouldn't have been?

Anyway to me it is sinple, if a ruling party wants to change the prime minister then there should be a general election, that should be law.

Shark Man

So you voted for Kinnock or Paddy then

And Major had more votes than even Blair has ever manged throughout his terms, quite a feat IMO. Don't think El Gordo will manage that

SunnySideUp

Brown now compared to Mugabe ... and Zimbabwe compared to the place we call home??

Seen it all now

Mugabe should be executed and the opposition put into power - it would be easier than Iraq!

The Zohan

Let's hope the African states have the ***** and courage to go sort it out then.

Problem lies in Africa with an ex Brit colony, we cannot go sort it as it just fuels the anti west/white argument and feeling.

About time the surrounding African countries got off the fence and got involved instead of just the odd word or two!

vindaloo

No it wouldn't. :P

You'd first have to invade a country with a shoreline. Then supply two/three armies in the field in hostile territory.
- One to take the first country and secure its borders.
- One to suppress the first country or "manage" it.
- One to push through and take Zimbabwe.

Anyone who thinks the populace will welcome change with open arms only has to look at Iraq. Whenever you have men in green suits holding guns, eventually civilian opinion hardens against them. People don't like being threatened and being told what to do.

J.

The Zohan

Thats not strictly true, you do not need to invade a country with a shoreline, you do need to secure safe airspace over the countries surrounding the one you plan to invade - to secure troop/logistics/resupply lines by air to begin with and then the friendly country would let you use thier roads and infrastructure as well.

That would agian mean an African state or two would need to get off of the fence...

corradoboy

We have had 12 Prime Ministers since WWII and only 6 of them were appointed through a general election victory. I do think though that there should be a constitutional ruling that if they enter office via any means other than a clear democratic election win, then they MUST hold a GE within 12 months of taking office.

SunnySideUp

Vindaloo

No need for shoreline - air power and we would simply take the air space we needed - anything coming within 50 miles of one of our planes would be shot down without warning ...... make that clear to the neighbouring states and they will come aboard.

These are only African states and not a patch on what Iraq was ....... in, execute Mugabe, arrest his cronies, hold peaceful elections and get out - 12 months.

corradoboy

Just like the Americans in Somalia

SunnySideUp

Americans are just useless - they simply use might and weight ........ we, on the other hand, are masters at the small force doing the business.

Eddie1980

Yer I am amazed we aint sent in a sniper to be honest, I know I would.

Leslie

Can't say fairer than that.

Les