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Old 23 June 2008, 03:01 PM
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BBC NEWS | UK | England | London | Man jailed over crossfire death

I really do not get this....

Two lads have a gun fight killing the innocent lady.

They arrest the two guys.... the guy who shot and killed her did not get charged but the guy who did not shoot her was sent to jail for her murder..... why were both these little fukks not sent to jail for life????????????????????
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Because the CPS did not have sufficient evidence against the other person to charge them. They know that it was not Gnagos bullet that killed Pniewska, but that cannot prove that it was the other arrestedperson that did.
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Hmm, that makes sense doesn't it

There's only one thing for it. Lock them both in the same cell with one bullet each. Then set it alight.
Old 23 June 2008, 03:10 PM
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Seems strange that they had all the evidence needed for one but not the other...... so basically, they know who killed her but the other guy gets done for her murder.... in one way I am glad he was done.... in another way angry that they did not also get the actual killer
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If they had the evidence to charge both, they would have done it.
Old 23 June 2008, 03:57 PM
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The British Legal System aka The Double Edged Sword....

So complex to protect the innocent, to maintain its good record of false convictions (or lack of should I say)

Also so complex, its impossible to get anything more complex than "bang to rights" watertight.
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Originally Posted by PeteBrant
Because the CPS did not have sufficient evidence against the other person to charge them. They know that it was not Gnagos bullet that killed Pniewska, but that cannot prove that it was the other arrestedperson that did.

What complete tosh? has ballistic forensics suddenly be outlawed or something?

The have two blokes with 2 guns, they know one didn't kill her by either the trajectory of the bullet wound or they have recovered the bullet from her head and not matched it to his gun. Therefore it MUST match the other guys gun so what more evidence do you need??? unless there was a 3rd shooter behind a grassy knoll.

Also they know these 2 muppets went out to kill each other, they know they both fired their weapons, so there is 3 crimes to start with.

Intent to commit murder
Carrying a gun
Discharging a weapon in a public place.

You don't have talk some crap sometimes Pete!!

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they were both involved, shoot em both and then not have to worry
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Originally Posted by Wurzel
What complete tosh? has ballistic forensics suddenly be outlawed or something?

The have two blokes with 2 guns, they know one didn't kill her by either the trajectory of the bullet wound or they have recovered the bullet from her head and not matched it to his gun. Therefore it MUST match the other guys gun so what more evidence do you need??? unless there was a 3rd shooter behind a grassy knoll.

Also they know these 2 muppets went out to kill each other, they know they both fired their weapons, so there is 3 crimes to start with.

Intent to commit murder
Carrying a gun
Discharging a weapon in a public place.

You don't have talk some crap sometimes Pete!!
i get wheres he's cooming from, knowing who did it and being able to prove it in a court of law is two very different things.

beyond resonable doubt is the key phrase
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Originally Posted by Wurzel
What complete tosh? has ballistic forensics suddenly be outlawed or something?

The have two blokes with 2 guns, they know one didn't kill her by either the trajectory of the bullet wound or they have recovered the bullet from her head and not matched it to his gun. Therefore it MUST match the other guys gun so what more evidence do you need??? unless there was a 3rd shooter behind a grassy knoll.

Also they know these 2 muppets went out to kill each other, they know they both fired their weapons, so there is 3 crimes to start with.

Intent to commit murder
Carrying a gun
Discharging a weapon in a public place.

You don't have talk some crap sometimes Pete!!

Look, it's quite simple. If the CPS had enough evidence to charge and convict person "A" for Murder, or for firing a gun, or possesion of a firearm, do you not think they might have just done that?

Person "a" wasn't charged, as we know from the report. The reason was, they did not have enough evidence to charge him anything.

Which bit of that do you think is "rubbish"?
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