BT openworld ADSL grrrrrrrrrrrrr
01 February 2002, 01:21 PM
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Well Ithought I was finally there.....after almost 4 months of problems it was due to be installed this afternoon. Just to check I rang them the day before yesterday to confirm. They didn't have my order in the system. Can you beleive it!!! Apparantly I'm not the first person this has happened to and it is being dealt with at a very senior level..... I just don't beleive it...
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01 February 2002, 02:14 PM
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Dave,
Have you looked at the alternative to ADSL, broadband via satellite...
What soret of figures were you looking at VS speeds + contention ratios !!!
I may be able to help...
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P
01 February 2002, 03:24 PM
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It all depends on the number of PCs you are looking to run in your ethernet and the nature of the traffic. Broadband via sat, works on two systems, closed and open specifications.
The closed spec eg The BT openworld system, is pretty good if you are not uploading too much info as the return path is not that quick 128k, esp if there are more that a few PCs...
The open spec is a bit of an unknow technologhy, however when it is up and running ( co. are trialing at the mo ) should be very good.
There are a number of companies that are using this at the mo aside from BT, send me an e - mail and I can put you in contact, pricings are comparable to ADSL.
The closed spec eg The BT openworld system, is pretty good if you are not uploading too much info as the return path is not that quick 128k, esp if there are more that a few PCs...
The open spec is a bit of an unknow technologhy, however when it is up and running ( co. are trialing at the mo ) should be very good.
There are a number of companies that are using this at the mo aside from BT, send me an e - mail and I can put you in contact, pricings are comparable to ADSL.
01 February 2002, 03:27 PM
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Sorry Dave,
I didn't read your post properly, before babbling on about Sats...
It will be quicker, however be carefull, as it may slow at certain times as the bandwidth is " shared " ...
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02 February 2002, 09:33 AM
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We've had Freeserve ADSL for over a year now, our experiences are:
1. BT, who lease the local loop to Freeserve (the bit from your house to the exchange or wherever Freeserves's server or router is) and come and install the line, didn't have a clue what they were doing. First attempt was a farce, second attempt only happened after numerous chase ups from us. Second BT engineer bloody brilliant though. Things should have improved as engineers will now be more experienced.
2. Generally very reliable - I know we've had a couple of outages but they've been fixed fairly quickly.
3. Last couple of months of last year access really began to slow down. However, they must have done something to give more bandwidth in my area, because it's back to it's previous high speed now.
Cheers
Tim
1. BT, who lease the local loop to Freeserve (the bit from your house to the exchange or wherever Freeserves's server or router is) and come and install the line, didn't have a clue what they were doing. First attempt was a farce, second attempt only happened after numerous chase ups from us. Second BT engineer bloody brilliant though. Things should have improved as engineers will now be more experienced.
2. Generally very reliable - I know we've had a couple of outages but they've been fixed fairly quickly.
3. Last couple of months of last year access really began to slow down. However, they must have done something to give more bandwidth in my area, because it's back to it's previous high speed now.
Cheers
Tim
03 February 2002, 10:10 AM
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I had a "similar" problem! The order was there, but the engineer didn't turn up the day he was supposed to. I nearly cried down the phone at them because I'd taken a day off work.
I am generally happy with what he did when he did turn up - the next morning, but I thought it was supposed to be a permanent connection? It disconnect while playing online games, even though in the settings I have ticked that it never disconnects! Any ideas?
Clare
xx
P.s. It's great other than that - really fast!
I am generally happy with what he did when he did turn up - the next morning, but I thought it was supposed to be a permanent connection? It disconnect while playing online games, even though in the settings I have ticked that it never disconnects! Any ideas?
Clare
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P.s. It's great other than that - really fast!
03 February 2002, 10:39 AM
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I run my ADSL though an old PC that I use as a server running XP, with j.r-xrs and myself connecting as necessary.
It autoloads a little program called Staylive that requests the time from a web-based atomic clock, thus keeping my connection up.
I have run it for up to 10 days at a time without a hitch, and no doubt it could go longer, only I just can't believe that an operating system from MS can really go that long without falling over!
Don't know why I waited so long to get it really, it's brilliant.
It autoloads a little program called Staylive that requests the time from a web-based atomic clock, thus keeping my connection up.
I have run it for up to 10 days at a time without a hitch, and no doubt it could go longer, only I just can't believe that an operating system from MS can really go that long without falling over!
Don't know why I waited so long to get it really, it's brilliant.
03 February 2002, 11:03 AM
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you might want to try www.tele2.co.uk they operate
wireless broadband connection which cost about the same as DSL.
Sat connections are expensive as the Sat bandwidth is expensive.
Will cost you over £100 a month.
Si
wireless broadband connection which cost about the same as DSL.
Sat connections are expensive as the Sat bandwidth is expensive.
Will cost you over £100 a month.
Si
03 February 2002, 03:26 PM
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Sicotty and sasman:
Unfortunately Tele2 operate in the same (high population) areas as BT and NTL.
Although they are currently saying if you can get 100 businesses to sign up then they will roll-out in your area!
Steve.
Unfortunately Tele2 operate in the same (high population) areas as BT and NTL.
Although they are currently saying if you can get 100 businesses to sign up then they will roll-out in your area!
Steve.
05 February 2002, 02:49 PM
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Steve and Sasman,
My apologies, I have been away for the weekend....
Right, a little background...
The difficulty with ADSL is that it is distance dependant to about 3.5km of the exchange, although BT are goingto offer another product that will extend this to 5ish km...
The other issue is that the traffice is asymetric, so if you are uploading lots of info then it will be pretty slow, or if there are a number of people connected at the same time...
In addition there are fairly high contention ratios, which means that after luch ... for example traffic flo will be slow..
Now there is a lot of bull$%it at the mo. about satelite and latency etc, however it does work and no it doesn't get affected by the rain ( its all to do with the spot beam and teh power associated with that )
Essentially there are two different types of internet via satellite that are suitable for SMEs and home users, those that are based on traditional VSAT technologies and those on an new open standard called DVB RCS.
If you can let me know the following I can point you in the correct direction !!!
Likely number of end users ( PCs )
Location of office
Type of traffic
And anything else that may be useful...
Regards,
Paul
My apologies, I have been away for the weekend....
Right, a little background...
The difficulty with ADSL is that it is distance dependant to about 3.5km of the exchange, although BT are goingto offer another product that will extend this to 5ish km...
The other issue is that the traffice is asymetric, so if you are uploading lots of info then it will be pretty slow, or if there are a number of people connected at the same time...
In addition there are fairly high contention ratios, which means that after luch ... for example traffic flo will be slow..
Now there is a lot of bull$%it at the mo. about satelite and latency etc, however it does work and no it doesn't get affected by the rain ( its all to do with the spot beam and teh power associated with that )
Essentially there are two different types of internet via satellite that are suitable for SMEs and home users, those that are based on traditional VSAT technologies and those on an new open standard called DVB RCS.
If you can let me know the following I can point you in the correct direction !!!
Likely number of end users ( PCs )
Location of office
Type of traffic
And anything else that may be useful...
Regards,
Paul
05 February 2002, 02:57 PM
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Paul:
I work at home alot, and am looking for faster internet connection.
I don't want to pay omnisat £159.99 a month (for no guarantee of service and a 3yr contract(!!!)), and Tiscali is too unreliable and slow at £49.99. Can you offer anything inbetween?
Steve.
I work at home alot, and am looking for faster internet connection.
I don't want to pay omnisat £159.99 a month (for no guarantee of service and a 3yr contract(!!!)), and Tiscali is too unreliable and slow at £49.99. Can you offer anything inbetween?
Steve.
05 February 2002, 03:13 PM
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Steve,
Is the Tiscali service a true VSAT based option or does it work on wireless principles, or is it another fibre alternative...
Try these although they are all reasonably expensive...
www.beamsolutions.net
www.bridgebroadband.co.uk / www.isonetric.net
www.aramiska.com
Otherwise, send me a PM and I may be able to help...
Regards,
Paul
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