Tough Tory plan for young jobless
26 May 2008, 07:10 AM
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Tough Tory plan for young jobless
Hopefully just the start of politicians realising who pays the bill and who's taking the country for a ride. Just need to make sure they roll this out and up the age range.
Of course they need to win the next election first.
BBC story:
The Conservatives are bringing forward tough new proposals on work schemes for jobless young people.
Anyone under 21 unemployed for three months would be sent to a specialist employer for an intensive programme of work-related activity.
If they were still jobless after a year they would be moved to a full-time 12-month community work programme.
"If they drop out of work again there will be even tougher limits on the amount of time they can spend at home on benefits.
Indeed, many will be referred straight back on to a structured return-to-work programme or a community work programme."
Chris Grayling
Shadow Work and Pensions Secretary
I can't see Labour matching this but it'll be interesting to see their comments on it, probably just turn it into a class issue.
BBC NEWS | Politics | Tough Tory plan for young jobless
Of course they need to win the next election first.
BBC story:
The Conservatives are bringing forward tough new proposals on work schemes for jobless young people.
Anyone under 21 unemployed for three months would be sent to a specialist employer for an intensive programme of work-related activity.
If they were still jobless after a year they would be moved to a full-time 12-month community work programme.
"If they drop out of work again there will be even tougher limits on the amount of time they can spend at home on benefits.
Indeed, many will be referred straight back on to a structured return-to-work programme or a community work programme."
Chris Grayling
Shadow Work and Pensions Secretary
I can't see Labour matching this but it'll be interesting to see their comments on it, probably just turn it into a class issue.
BBC NEWS | Politics | Tough Tory plan for young jobless
26 May 2008, 09:58 AM
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I like the sound of that. Been a supporter of community working for a long time now.
I cant see labour matching it, I can see them carbon copying it, word for word! As soon as its a good idea and put out there and liked, its New Labour, New Idea.....(stolen from others) lol
I cant see labour matching it, I can see them carbon copying it, word for word! As soon as its a good idea and put out there and liked, its New Labour, New Idea.....(stolen from others) lol
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26 May 2008, 10:03 AM
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euro referendum and a quick look on google...
* “We will not introduce top-up fees, and have legislation to prevent them”
(They introduced top-up fees)
* “New Labour will be wise spenders, not big spenders”
(They spent £900 000 for the production of an NHS magazine which sold just 22 copies)
* “We will clamp down on Housing Benefit fraud, costing £2 billion a year”
(Benefit fraud now costs as much as £7 billion)
* “We will get the unemployed from welfare to work”
(A million young people are not in work, education or training. Nearly 8 million people are economically inactive)
* “Our purpose is to make the NHS a public service, not a commercial business driven by competition”
(New rules allow health authorities to subcontract with private health care organisations. Recently, a private contractor struck a record £1.25 million deal to run five GP practices)
* “We will make high quality NHS dentistry available to all by September 2001”
(Soviet-style queues outside dental practices offering NHS care. Over half the population in the country cannot get registered with an NHS dentist)
* “We will end waiting for cancer treatment”
(There is a wait for up to three months for radiotherapy for breast cancer)
* “Labour will defend the basic state pension, without means-testing”
(In 1997, 40% of pensioners were mean-tested. In 2003 nearly 60% were means-tested)
* “We will create the framework for better second pension schemes”
(When Labour came to power, 67% of pensioners received an occupational pension. Four years later, it was down to 59%)
* “We will cut waiting lists”
(The average waiting time for hospital treatment is now 99 days - up from 90 days in 1999 - and there are still a million people on waiting lists)
* “We will cut spending on red tape and bureaucracy”
(The Government’s own efficiency expert found £20 billion of waste in public spending)
* “We will be tough on crime”
(Now, one million violent crimes are committed every year)
* “We will develop a transport policy to fight congestion”
(Motorway congestion has increased by 250%)
* “We will not force schools to sell off playing fields”
(Schools are forced to sell off their playing fields)
* “We will make education our number one priority”
(One in three 11 year olds leave primary school unable to read, write and count properly)
* “Teachers will be entitled to full support to promote good attendance and sound discipline”
(A million children played truant last year. A teacher is attacked every seven minutes)
* “We will promote personal prosperity for all”
(The gap between rich and poor has widened)
* “We will spend wisely……..”
(They spent 62% more on services to achieve a 16% output)
* “……and tax fairly”
(New Labour has raised tax 66 times by stealth)
* “New Labour is not about high taxes on ordinary families”
(Now, an average household in the UK pays £5000 extra on taxes; it was £2000 under the Conservatives)
* “We will help create successful and profitable businesses”
(Strikes rose by 462%, manufacturing employment fell by 733 000 and red tape costs businesses £20 billion)
* “We will cut unnecessary red tape for small businesses”
(The average employer spends 200% more time dealing with red tape)
* “We will overhaul our fisheries policy”
(Now, our fishing fleet is the smallest it has ever been)
* “We will strengthen family life”
(Homelessness rose by 27%. The number of families in Bed and Breakfast accommodation rose by 151%)
* “We believe the all pensioners should share in the increasing prosperity of the nation”
(Over 2 million pensioners live below the poverty line)
* “We will reform the asylum system”
(Between 1997 and 2003, 553 850 asylum seekers entered the UK, equivalent to the entire voting population of Telford, nine times over)
And, finally:
* “The promises we make, we will keep”
will the tories be any better, who knows, but they have to be given a chance considering what we currently have.
* “We will not introduce top-up fees, and have legislation to prevent them”
(They introduced top-up fees)
* “New Labour will be wise spenders, not big spenders”
(They spent £900 000 for the production of an NHS magazine which sold just 22 copies)
* “We will clamp down on Housing Benefit fraud, costing £2 billion a year”
(Benefit fraud now costs as much as £7 billion)
* “We will get the unemployed from welfare to work”
(A million young people are not in work, education or training. Nearly 8 million people are economically inactive)
* “Our purpose is to make the NHS a public service, not a commercial business driven by competition”
(New rules allow health authorities to subcontract with private health care organisations. Recently, a private contractor struck a record £1.25 million deal to run five GP practices)
* “We will make high quality NHS dentistry available to all by September 2001”
(Soviet-style queues outside dental practices offering NHS care. Over half the population in the country cannot get registered with an NHS dentist)
* “We will end waiting for cancer treatment”
(There is a wait for up to three months for radiotherapy for breast cancer)
* “Labour will defend the basic state pension, without means-testing”
(In 1997, 40% of pensioners were mean-tested. In 2003 nearly 60% were means-tested)
* “We will create the framework for better second pension schemes”
(When Labour came to power, 67% of pensioners received an occupational pension. Four years later, it was down to 59%)
* “We will cut waiting lists”
(The average waiting time for hospital treatment is now 99 days - up from 90 days in 1999 - and there are still a million people on waiting lists)
* “We will cut spending on red tape and bureaucracy”
(The Government’s own efficiency expert found £20 billion of waste in public spending)
* “We will be tough on crime”
(Now, one million violent crimes are committed every year)
* “We will develop a transport policy to fight congestion”
(Motorway congestion has increased by 250%)
* “We will not force schools to sell off playing fields”
(Schools are forced to sell off their playing fields)
* “We will make education our number one priority”
(One in three 11 year olds leave primary school unable to read, write and count properly)
* “Teachers will be entitled to full support to promote good attendance and sound discipline”
(A million children played truant last year. A teacher is attacked every seven minutes)
* “We will promote personal prosperity for all”
(The gap between rich and poor has widened)
* “We will spend wisely……..”
(They spent 62% more on services to achieve a 16% output)
* “……and tax fairly”
(New Labour has raised tax 66 times by stealth)
* “New Labour is not about high taxes on ordinary families”
(Now, an average household in the UK pays £5000 extra on taxes; it was £2000 under the Conservatives)
* “We will help create successful and profitable businesses”
(Strikes rose by 462%, manufacturing employment fell by 733 000 and red tape costs businesses £20 billion)
* “We will cut unnecessary red tape for small businesses”
(The average employer spends 200% more time dealing with red tape)
* “We will overhaul our fisheries policy”
(Now, our fishing fleet is the smallest it has ever been)
* “We will strengthen family life”
(Homelessness rose by 27%. The number of families in Bed and Breakfast accommodation rose by 151%)
* “We believe the all pensioners should share in the increasing prosperity of the nation”
(Over 2 million pensioners live below the poverty line)
* “We will reform the asylum system”
(Between 1997 and 2003, 553 850 asylum seekers entered the UK, equivalent to the entire voting population of Telford, nine times over)
And, finally:
* “The promises we make, we will keep”
will the tories be any better, who knows, but they have to be given a chance considering what we currently have.
26 May 2008, 12:44 PM
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Sounds great 
BUT... remember that something called the 'human rights law' exist, which helps scroungers and criminals, so no doubt 'making' some unemployed people go and look for employment will 'breach' their human rights
We need something like this, and the scrapping of the human rights law, then we'd be in business
BUT... remember that something called the 'human rights law' exist, which helps scroungers and criminals, so no doubt 'making' some unemployed people go and look for employment will 'breach' their human rights
We need something like this, and the scrapping of the human rights law, then we'd be in business
27 May 2008, 12:55 PM
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Can't see what is wrong with the old idea of prison being uncomfortable and the day being spent breaking stone up in the local quarry. They would not look forward to "Hard Labour" as it was called then.
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27 May 2008, 01:34 PM
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A step in the right direction. But then what about all these people on incapacity benefits for the slightest ailment. It will push more people to look to get on this and with doctors being lax and signing off every man and his dog they will probably be covered. Then they cant be made to work at all.
Did anyone watch that thing in Wales? Every ****** is on this benefit - blaming it on hard labour like coal mine work when the damn mines were closed before they were even born. Made my blood boil and had to turn it off.
Ive seen it in reality as half my mums family living in Wales are on the scrounge. When I lived with my grandad when working in Wales back in the day - the nextdoor neighbor was a nice chap but on benefit. New car every other year, always helping my grandad out with shopping and diy yet apparently couldnt work in an office etc due to his disability. Damn Id have plenty of time to help folk if I didnt spend 40hrs a week + at work. To top it all his daughter was disabled with one leg longer than the other - got a damn taxi to school every day - wtf cant the dad drive her there in his benefit purchased car
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Did anyone watch that thing in Wales? Every ****** is on this benefit - blaming it on hard labour like coal mine work when the damn mines were closed before they were even born. Made my blood boil and had to turn it off.
Ive seen it in reality as half my mums family living in Wales are on the scrounge. When I lived with my grandad when working in Wales back in the day - the nextdoor neighbor was a nice chap but on benefit. New car every other year, always helping my grandad out with shopping and diy yet apparently couldnt work in an office etc due to his disability. Damn Id have plenty of time to help folk if I didnt spend 40hrs a week + at work. To top it all his daughter was disabled with one leg longer than the other - got a damn taxi to school every day - wtf cant the dad drive her there in his benefit purchased car
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