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Old 06 May 2008, 06:53 PM
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Default Police shoot out in Chelsea

Breaking news !!
Armed Police Shot At In West London |Sky News|UK News

LOTS of CO19 on the scene
Old 06 May 2008, 06:56 PM
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This type of incident seems to be becoming all the more prevalent.

Worrying times
Old 06 May 2008, 06:57 PM
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Was it like the opening scene from Predator 2
Old 06 May 2008, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by DCI Gene Hunt
Was it like the opening scene from Predator 2
That is a great scene i liked the film as well

Likely to get more prevelant, used to be most criminals would give up rather than risk a confrontation with SO19, now CO19.

It is worrying
Old 06 May 2008, 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Varboy
This type of incident seems to be becoming all the more prevalent.

Worrying times
Not on this scale, not that much anyway
West London, and to think its always people saying SE London lol.

The eye witness is making it sound like something from the wild west
Old 06 May 2008, 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Habgood
That is a great scene i liked the film as well

Likely to get more prevelant, used to be most criminals would give up rather than risk a confrontation with SO19, now CO19.

It is worrying
Saying that, CO19 are much more seriously armed these days. I reckon that puts quite a few wannabies off.

Loving this eye witness though lol
Old 06 May 2008, 07:29 PM
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It's lucky we've banned guns.
Old 06 May 2008, 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by KiwiGTI
It's lucky we've banned guns.
Its all global warmings fault.... heat makes people do strange things.... oh well may as well up the tax on cars to prevent this kind of thing happening again
Old 06 May 2008, 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Snazy
Saying that, CO19 are much more seriously armed these days. I reckon that puts quite a few wannabies off.

Loving this eye witness though lol
I understand that they now have the 7.62 H&K which does give good penetration, abeit the semi auto version.

The criminals can go fully auto if they wish. The wrong sort of weapons are easily avaliable if you know where to look. I think you will find more situation like this as some criminals get more bold, some might even come in from abroad and are much more used to truning to violence and guns...

What CO19 have, and this is their best weapon are very highly trained officers who undergo rigerous selection and ongoing training and assements and they are amongst the best in the world.

As Kiwi says, thank heaven guns where banned in the UK or we might have an increase in gun related crime - another prime example of a knee-jerk sticking plaster policy/law that has failed miserably.
Old 06 May 2008, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by DCI Gene Hunt
Its all global warmings fault.... heat makes people do strange things.... oh well may as well up the tax on cars to prevent this kind of thing happening again
I can almost hear one of browns advisors scribbling furiously whilst reading that
Old 06 May 2008, 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Habgood
I can almost hear one of browns advisors scribbling furiously whilst reading that

Joke about it, but you never know!
Old 06 May 2008, 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Habgood
I understand that they now have the 7.62 H&K which does give good penetration, abeit the semi auto version.

The criminals can go fully auto if they wish. The wrong sort of weapons are easily avaliable if you know where to look. I think you will find more situation like this as some criminals get more bold, some might even come in from abroad and are much more used to truning to violence and guns...

What CO19 have, and this is their best weapon are very highly trained officers who undergo rigerous selection and ongoing training and assements and they are amongst the best in the world.

As Kiwi says, thank heaven guns where banned in the UK or we might have an increase in gun related crime - another prime example of a knee-jerk sticking plaster policy/law that has failed miserably.
This happens in the Uk it's national news. Happens in the US and it may make page 13 of the local rag....
Old 06 May 2008, 07:59 PM
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i find it alarming that the general public know what co19 is ! its getting to the point that i want to get out even quicker than before !
Old 06 May 2008, 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by rabskyline
i find it alarming that the general public know what co19 is ! its getting to the point that i want to get out even quicker than before !
I have given them your details as a subversive and have told them that you said - and i quote "That bunch a sasanach **** bandits in girlie body armour will nae take me alive!"


Pretty sure SO19, now CO19 where never that covert, but like MI5 and MI6
Old 06 May 2008, 08:27 PM
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19 is no secret number these days, its the other numbers that baffle people, and if you know what some of those are, the question could be asked why a lot more lol.

Having been out with a torjan unit a few months back, looking for someone, its pretty impressive to see how they operate. I sure as hell would not wanna be on the run from them.

Saw 2 of them chasing a guy down on foot last year, the 3rd giving chase in the car. Looked like something out of The Bill, but I pity him when they caught him.

As for the USA, certainly in Florida they news is peppered with gun incidents... most ending... "the gunman was eventually shot and killed as he..." They dont make a secret of it, and I have to say speaking to a friend who is a cop out there, he still feels that gun crime is not as rampant as most want to believe.
Old 06 May 2008, 09:13 PM
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GUN MAN REOPENED FIRE - BREAKING NEWS NOW!!
Old 06 May 2008, 09:20 PM
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I used to buy pasties from a shop next to Markham square, they used to sell beer - when that stopped, I stopped buying thier pasties..
Old 06 May 2008, 09:22 PM
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scooby, can you just pop round, and give us an update please, cheers.
Old 06 May 2008, 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by gazza-uk
scooby, can you just pop round, and give us an update please, cheers.
Narp - there's no decent pub round there to hang out in, apart from the cooper on Flood Street, a bit far away..

funny most weird deaths/incidents in Chelsea are folks falling off/out of hotels and flats..
Old 06 May 2008, 09:31 PM
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"I was in a changing room and a lady came in very panicked and crying and screaming a little bit.

"It seemed that her ex-partner was the one shooting - I don't know if he was shooting at her.

"It seemed that an argument started and, as she put it, it got out of hand.
In fairness, taking the Mrs shopping makes me feel like doing this. Can't blame the bloke.
Old 06 May 2008, 09:40 PM
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ooooow, tune in now!!!!
Old 06 May 2008, 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by gazza-uk
ooooow, tune in now!!!!
All joking apart, someone's been shot.
Old 06 May 2008, 09:44 PM
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Co19 were never that covert, the met have always been quite open about their existance, mainly as a public assurance / anti threat tactic.


You still don't want to get on their wrong side, they are very highly trained.

The officers identity on the other hand are closely guarded. Chances are if you see an uncovered face its not a Co19 officer.

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Old 06 May 2008, 09:58 PM
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And they trust women with guns ....... Flame suit on

Old 06 May 2008, 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Simon C
The officers identity on the other hand are closely guarded. Chances are if you see an uncovered face its not a Co19 officer.
If they are that hard, why are they scared of showing themselves
Old 06 May 2008, 10:33 PM
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He's been shot dead apparently.
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Yup stormed the building, and now dead.

Ho hum, dont play with guns, and dont shoot at CO19.

Good job lads, sleep well

Agreed about the comments about CO19 too, would not like to try my hand with them.
I wish they had chosen another eye witness to loop the footage with.
Old 07 May 2008, 05:43 AM
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I see the Police Complaints Authority are now investigating.
What a complete waste of taxpayers money.
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they saw armed officers running away from Markham Square in a panic after the shots were fired, shouting: "Get the hell out, this is serious."

Understated comment from the cops


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