Greenpeace protestors scale Heathrow jet
25 February 2008, 02:26 PM
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Greenpeace protestors scale Heathrow jet
This story makes me puke with anger. Not because of anything to do with climate change, but because, after years of queuing, queuing, queuing, brusque "security" staff, queuing, having to take off my shoes, belt, earpiece, false kneecap, fillings from my teeth etc etc, and more queuing, every time I go through a terminal (oh how appropriate that name is), after years of saying we have to send all our credit card bills and bank account details for the last hundred years to the USA and our biometric data, our imperial metric data, our underwear size..., after years of mounting pressure to introduce ID cards for our security... the [entire contents of the swear filter] can't stop people CLIMBING ON A JET at supposedly one of the most secure / high risk airports in the developed world at 9.30am on a Monday morning!
AAAAARGH!
AAAAARGH!
25 February 2008, 02:30 PM
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Agreed.
If that had been a Muslim with a Bomb ...............
Personally I hate all those Green piece activists. Army should use them as target practice
If that had been a Muslim with a Bomb ...............
Personally I hate all those Green piece activists. Army should use them as target practice
25 February 2008, 03:34 PM
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Unless they walked there in clothers and shoes they made themselves from their own resources and only eat produce they farm themselves, in a house made from mud then they are pitiful hypocrites. Any contribution to our captialist western ways is a contribution to Co2 emmisions...
If a muslim had done this they would be looking at life in a hard knock jail on terrorism charges.
Greenpeace must surely be facing PR hell at the moment, what with those illegal ship rammers in the Antartic and now this
Eco warriors? Naah, they're just saddo criminals breaking the law under an eco banner...
If a muslim had done this they would be looking at life in a hard knock jail on terrorism charges.
Greenpeace must surely be facing PR hell at the moment, what with those illegal ship rammers in the Antartic and now this
Eco warriors? Naah, they're just saddo criminals breaking the law under an eco banner...
25 February 2008, 07:31 PM
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This story makes me puke with anger. Not because of anything to do with climate change, but because, after years of queuing, queuing, queuing, brusque "security" staff, queuing, having to take off my shoes, belt, earpiece, false kneecap, fillings from my teeth etc etc, and more queuing, every time I go through a terminal (oh how appropriate that name is), after years of saying we have to send all our credit card bills and bank account details for the last hundred years to the USA and our biometric data, our imperial metric data, our underwear size..., after years of mounting pressure to introduce ID cards for our security... the [entire contents of the swear filter] can't stop people CLIMBING ON A JET at supposedly one of the most secure / high risk airports in the developed world at 9.30am on a Monday morning!
AAAAARGH!
AAAAARGH!
As for how they got on the plane, I'm hearing that someone distracted the guy at the air bridge, moved him away from his post, and the rest of them climbed up onto the air bridge roof, and walked down it, to the top of the aircraft.
This would have been much more serious if this chimps had scaled the perimeter fence and got to the plane. As it was, silly in the extreme, but harmless.
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26 February 2008, 12:06 PM
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I think the protest was at the proposal to build a third runway at Heathrow and to double the passenger throughput annually. Strange the authorities should support that with all the fuss they make about global warming isn't it?
I can understand why people protest at that with the threat of losing their homes and having so much extra noise to endure and the extra road traffic which will be generated.
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I can understand why people protest at that with the threat of losing their homes and having so much extra noise to endure and the extra road traffic which will be generated.
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26 February 2008, 12:11 PM
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I think the protest was at the proposal to build a third runway at Heathrow and to double the passenger throughput annually. Strange the authorities should support that with all the fuss they make about global warming isn't it?
I can understand why people protest at that with the threat of losing their homes and having so much extra noise to endure and the extra road traffic which will be generated.
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I can understand why people protest at that with the threat of losing their homes and having so much extra noise to endure and the extra road traffic which will be generated.
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26 February 2008, 12:16 PM
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As much as I'm against another runway at Heathrow (as I think other airports should be upgarded and developed to off-load excess airtraffic which needlessly travels to LHR ). I won't side on the whim of "green" activists.
The green lobby has no say in the matter. If they want to address pollution by aircraft; then complain at the source - plane manufacturers.
The green lobby has no say in the matter. If they want to address pollution by aircraft; then complain at the source - plane manufacturers.
26 February 2008, 12:21 PM
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As much as I'm against another runway at Heathrow (as I think other airports should be upgarded and developed to off-load excess airtraffic which needlessly travels to LHR ). I won't side on the whim of "green" activists.
The green lobby has no say in the matter. If they want to address pollution by aircraft; then complain at the source - plane manufacturers.
The green lobby has no say in the matter. If they want to address pollution by aircraft; then complain at the source - plane manufacturers.
27 February 2008, 01:02 PM
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27 February 2008, 01:13 PM
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We landed at Heathrow the same time these guys were doing their stuff, albeit at another terminal. I had to laugh really for all the same reasons Brendan originally put... LOL
27 February 2008, 01:17 PM
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This isn't about airport expansion, its isn't about global warming, its about NIMBY's.
Care to guess how many complaints about aircraft there are at LHR, per year?
27 February 2008, 04:19 PM
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27 February 2008, 06:08 PM
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28 February 2008, 12:48 PM
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Of course, it also helps over 100,000 people employeed at LHR, so it could be said its about people as well Les. The people who work at the airport.
This isn't about airport expansion, its isn't about global warming, its about NIMBY's.
Care to guess how many complaints about aircraft there are at LHR, per year?
This isn't about airport expansion, its isn't about global warming, its about NIMBY's.
Care to guess how many complaints about aircraft there are at LHR, per year?
Those 100,000 at LHR are already employed and I doubt they will lose their jobs without the third runway anyway.
My point about Global warming was misconstrued by you, I said it is strange that a government which is all for every possible way to tax us away from causing GBW is advocating increasing air traffic to such a degree thus going against their own decrees.
I did not state an objection personally for that particular reason but was saying that I could understand the point that the protestors were making.
That goes also for the Parliament roof protestors and I admire them for taking such a public stand against the way this bunch of clowns in charge is railroading the people into accepting their decisions and taking no notice of what the people of this country really want their taxes spent on!
I hope this is now clear to you.
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28 February 2008, 01:00 PM
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We should look to China at how they do it - they opened the worlds largest airport this week (the worlds largest building in fact). The whole process of designing it, aquiring the land and building it took less time than just the planning process for T5. Job done!
I believe they all got re-housed in China though.
28 February 2008, 03:14 PM
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Is it fair to say that if your house was going to be compulsorily purchased so that the runway can be built over your property and that your area was going to be swamped with wall to wall extra traffic and you would have to put up with all that extra noise, that you would feel no "Nimbysm" as you call it and welcome the proposal?
Those 100,000 at LHR are already employed and I doubt they will lose their jobs without the third runway anyway.
My point about Global warming was misconstrued by you, I said it is strange that a government which is all for every possible way to tax us away from causing GBW is advocating increasing air traffic to such a degree thus going against their own decrees.
I did not state an objection personally for that particular reason but was saying that I could understand the point that the protestors were making.
That goes also for the Parliament roof protestors and I admire them for taking such a public stand against the way this bunch of clowns in charge is railroading the people into accepting their decisions and taking no notice of what the people of this country really want their taxes spent on!
I hope this is now clear to you.
Les
Those 100,000 at LHR are already employed and I doubt they will lose their jobs without the third runway anyway.
My point about Global warming was misconstrued by you, I said it is strange that a government which is all for every possible way to tax us away from causing GBW is advocating increasing air traffic to such a degree thus going against their own decrees.
I did not state an objection personally for that particular reason but was saying that I could understand the point that the protestors were making.
That goes also for the Parliament roof protestors and I admire them for taking such a public stand against the way this bunch of clowns in charge is railroading the people into accepting their decisions and taking no notice of what the people of this country really want their taxes spent on!
I hope this is now clear to you.
Les
To answer your first point. I'd move! These people live in house that are close to the airport and have a premium on them because of that.
Emissions from aircraft GLOBALLY are 2% of all emissions. Not that much of a figure is it? Yet the aircraft manufacturers have committed to a 50% reduction in fuel burn by 2020. Anyone think that the MY2020 Scooby will do 50mpg? Thought not.
The people of this country never get their taxes spent on what they want. I thought you'd have known that?
As for the 100,000 jobs, if LHR is allowed to decline, airlines will move out to Schipol and Frankfurt and jobs will be lost.
28 February 2008, 10:25 PM
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Is it fair to say that if your house was going to be compulsorily purchased so that the runway can be built over your property and that your area was going to be swamped with wall to wall extra traffic and you would have to put up with all that extra noise, that you would feel no "Nimbysm" as you call it and welcome the proposal?
Those 100,000 at LHR are already employed and I doubt they will lose their jobs without the third runway anyway.
My point about Global warming was misconstrued by you, I said it is strange that a government which is all for every possible way to tax us away from causing GBW is advocating increasing air traffic to such a degree thus going against their own decrees.
I did not state an objection personally for that particular reason but was saying that I could understand the point that the protestors were making.
That goes also for the Parliament roof protestors and I admire them for taking such a public stand against the way this bunch of clowns in charge is railroading the people into accepting their decisions and taking no notice of what the people of this country really want their taxes spent on!
I hope this is now clear to you.
Les
Those 100,000 at LHR are already employed and I doubt they will lose their jobs without the third runway anyway.
My point about Global warming was misconstrued by you, I said it is strange that a government which is all for every possible way to tax us away from causing GBW is advocating increasing air traffic to such a degree thus going against their own decrees.
I did not state an objection personally for that particular reason but was saying that I could understand the point that the protestors were making.
That goes also for the Parliament roof protestors and I admire them for taking such a public stand against the way this bunch of clowns in charge is railroading the people into accepting their decisions and taking no notice of what the people of this country really want their taxes spent on!
I hope this is now clear to you.
Les
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