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Old 15 February 2008, 09:48 AM
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Would you believe it, a Staffordshire bull terrier!

BBC NEWS | England | North Yorkshire | Girl, 10, mauled by bull terrier
Old 15 February 2008, 09:52 AM
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Kill them all!!!!!!

BBC NEWS | World | Americas | US university gunman kills five

Bad Humans, kill them all !!!!!
Old 15 February 2008, 09:53 AM
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sorry... Dave
Old 15 February 2008, 09:56 AM
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They're great with kids they are!
Old 15 February 2008, 09:59 AM
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Were you drinking last night Tiggs? I didnt know if the first post was intentional or just plain idiotic
Old 15 February 2008, 10:33 AM
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Amazingly, that article doesn't carry a link to another one published yesterday by the Beeb...

BBC NEWS | UK | Magazine | Ruff deal for the Staffie
Old 15 February 2008, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Brendan Hughes
Amazingly, that article doesn't carry a link to another one published yesterday by the Beeb...

BBC NEWS | UK | Magazine | Ruff deal for the Staffie
Well written article. True reflection of the breed too.

My Staffie gets attacked by vertually every dog he comes across, yet the owners usually have a go at me because I'm the one with the "Dangerous " dog
Old 15 February 2008, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Tiggs
They're great with kids they are!
Yes.

I could train a poodle to attack on command.
I could train a Labrador to attack on command.

The dog isn't the problem, the way it's trained/brought up is.

Know the breed before you make assumptions.
Old 15 February 2008, 11:46 AM
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I know the copper who was dealing with that last night, he said it was one of the worst jobs he has had to deal with. I feel sorry for the girl and her family because she was in a hell of a state. There is possible jail time coming for the owner
Old 15 February 2008, 11:56 AM
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Do we REALLY need another thread like this? This topic has been done to death on here; especially over the last few months!

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Old 15 February 2008, 12:07 PM
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Dog bite threads are so last month.
Old 15 February 2008, 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by PeteBrant
Dog bite threads are so last month.
Yep, we've moved onto the death penalty and chemical castration for Yobs now!

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Old 15 February 2008, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by New_scooby_04
Yep, we've moved onto the death penalty and chemical castration for Yobs now!

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They're the subjects that just keep giving.
Old 15 February 2008, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by PeteBrant
Dog bite threads are so last month.
Now LMFAO!

It is however a serious incident.

Not sure just what this thread will achieve except to show another child has been injured by another dog - for whatever reason, bad dog, bad owners, etc and i am sure the usual theories will get trotted out - along with a few infractions
Old 15 February 2008, 12:21 PM
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C'mon people!! Have all the dogs got together over the past few months and said "Let's bite the **** out of people this year"

Its the press scaremonging again!!
Old 15 February 2008, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by stilover
Yes.

I could train a poodle to attack on command.
I could train a Labrador to attack on command.

The dog isn't the problem, the way it's trained/brought up is.

Know the breed before you make assumptions.

Old 15 February 2008, 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Jaybird-UK
Would you believe it, a Staffordshire bull terrier!

BBC NEWS | England | North Yorkshire | Girl, 10, mauled by bull terrier
bit off its turf
Old 15 February 2008, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by stilover
Yes.

I could train a poodle to attack on command.
I could train a Labrador to attack on command.

The dog isn't the problem, the way it's trained/brought up is.

Know the breed before you make assumptions.


You can get a trainer to make a poodle sit on command
You can get a trainer to make a lion sit on command

Should lions be allowed to be taken for walks on our streets by anyone who fancies having one?

The issue is that there are many dumb people in the world. With the right training many of these animals will be safe. Under the current rules there is no requirement for people to prove that they have the right training. That is what is wrong.

There should be a licensing scheme for all dangerous dogs where owners have to prove that they can cope with them (just like people have to get driving licenses).

If that solves the problem, then great. If not, then the dogs that are physically strong enough to do these things just have to be banned.
Old 15 February 2008, 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by stilover
Yes.

I could train a poodle to attack on command.
I could train a Labrador to attack on command.
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Waste of time, just get a staffie - you wont need to train it at all.
Old 15 February 2008, 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Luminous
The issue is that there are many dumb people in the world. With the right training many of these animals will be safe. Under the current rules there is no requirement for people to prove that they have the right training. That is what is wrong.
Of course training a dog helps in lots of situations BUT it's the 'conditioning' already decent dogs are receiving from the uneducated. Those very people never had training of their own by decent parents.

In a nutshell, dogs like humans are fine to start with in decent, loving environments.

Originally Posted by Luminous
There should be a licensing scheme for all dangerous dogs where owners have to prove that they can cope with them (just like people have to get driving licenses).

If that solves the problem, then great. If not, then the dogs that are physically strong enough to do these things just have to be banned.
As said above, a dangerous dog is made, not born and that's where the difficulty lies when determining dangerous dogs.
Old 15 February 2008, 01:53 PM
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The whole point is, a little girl was seriously injured. That is a fact. I think that is a very bad thing to happen. I thought that dogs were supposed to be muzzled these days, or certain types of dog at least.

Can anyone actually suggest a way to protect innocent people from these sorts of attacks though?

Les
Old 15 February 2008, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Leslie
Can anyone actually suggest a way to protect innocent people from these sorts of attacks though?
Easy, put all the humans down because they are nasty pieces of work then the dogs cant bite them

End of the day, **** happens, its bad for the little girl but its just another story. I bet more kids are bitten by Westies (West Highland Terriers, not the blacks from West Indies) just the papers dont report it because a paper cut did more damage.
Old 15 February 2008, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by davegtt
I bet more kids are bitten by Westies just the papers dont report it because a paper cut did more damage.
Are you being deliberately stpid?

That is the POINT....no one is saying only one type of dog bites, we are saying THESE dogs do more harm.

Do you think paintball guns should be ranked alongside AK47's in the law?

There IS an issue around the likelihood of one dog biting over another, based on the nature of that dog - but i cant be bothered with that beyond saying take a wolf pup, raise it as a house dog then let your kids play with it. After all, you raised it, it'll be fine
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Originally Posted by Leslie
The whole point is, a little girl was seriously injured. That is a fact. I think that is a very bad thing to happen. I thought that dogs were supposed to be muzzled these days, or certain types of dog at least.

Can anyone actually suggest a way to protect innocent people from these sorts of attacks though?

Les
Difficult one, Les. Trouble is, cars do the same.

Muzzling protection dogs would be like putting 4 wheels on a motorbike.
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Originally Posted by Luminous
The issue is that there are many dumb people in the world. With the right training many of these animals will be safe. Under the current rules there is no requirement for people to prove that they have the right training. That is what is wrong.
Thats my point. A few dumbass owners give the whole bread a bad name.
If you abuse any breed of dog, it will bite.
Train a "Hard" breed properly and it won't

Originally Posted by Luminous
If that solves the problem, then great. If not, then the dogs that are physically strong enough to do these things just have to be banned.
Great.
Kill all Black people. They all steal
Kill all Muslims. They're all Terrorists.
Kill all teens. They're all chavs
Kill all strong people. If they're in a fight, they could kill
In fact kill alll humans. We are all capable of violence.

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Old 15 February 2008, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Tiggs
Are you being deliberately stpid?

That is the POINT....no one is saying only one type of dog bites, we are saying THESE dogs do more harm.

Do you think paintball guns should be ranked alongside AK47's in the law?

There IS an issue around the likelihood of one dog biting over another, based on the nature of that dog - but i cant be bothered with that beyond saying take a wolf pup, raise it as a house dog then let your kids play with it. After all, you raised it, it'll be fine
Firstly learn to spell stupid before accusing others of being so

Secondly I completely agree with what you have to say, as I have done on many of the previous dog threads. Ive said exactly the same thing as you many times over, I just cant be arsed typing it all out again on a thread that only about 5 people are following. Maybe it was just a wooosssshhhhh for you.
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Originally Posted by stilover
Thats my point. A few dumbass owners give the whole bread a bad name.
If you abuse any breed of dog, it will bite.
Train a "Hard" bread properly and it won't



Great.
Kill all Black people. They all steal
Kill all Muslims. They're all Terrorists.
Kill all teens. They're all chavs
Kill all strong people. If they're in a fight, they could kill
In fact kill alll humans. We are all capable of violence.
lol.. Love the use of Bread there

So you agree? We kill all humans and its problem solved? Glad my policies are hitting home

Stop Political Correctness - Kill a Muslim
Old 15 February 2008, 02:17 PM
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How come its more often then not the pit bull breed that are responsible for these attacks ? Because there is a high percentage of scumbags that own this type of dog maybe ? I dont think thats so, Where im from every scumbag in the area has a boxer dog ( including me ) yet there hasent been one attack that ive heard about. So im putting it down to the type of dog rather then just the owner and think they should all be destroyed.

Renno
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Originally Posted by renno rannes
How come its more often then not the pit bull breed that are responsible for these attacks ? Because there is a high percentage of scumbags that own this type of dog maybe ? I dont think thats so, Where im from every scumbag in the area has a boxer dog ( including me ) yet there hasent been one attack that ive heard about. So im putting it down to the type of dog rather then just the owner and think they should all be destroyed.

Renno
Yeah but youre Irish, you guys attack the dogs


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