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Old 11 December 2007, 07:25 PM
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Unhappy woman battered to death by early release scumbag

BBC NEWS | UK | Woman killed after early release

Just beggars belief, he was inside for battering her and got early release - obviously violence is not as importnat as it used to be.

I heard on R5 live this evening about a woman who got 18 months for Tax credit fraud - you can realy see where the priorities lie with NL!
Cannot find the story on the BBC site yet




Quote"A prisoner released early as part of a government plan to reduce jail overcrowding went on to murder his girlfriend, it has emerged.
At Leeds Crown Court on Friday, Andrew Mournian, 36, pleaded guilty to battering Amanda Murphy, 47, to death.

He was released in August under the End of Custody Licence scheme after serving a sentence for battering her.

Justice Secretary Jack Straw said it was "a shameful murder" and "a huge matter of regret" that it happened. "

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and the best bit, is this supposed to make it any better!?!


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"Mr Straw was asked about the case in the House of Commons by Shadow Justice Secretary Nick Herbert.

"I hope, seeing as you want to make something of this terrible incident, you will take note of what the learned judge said in her sentencing remarks," Mr Straw said.

"The senior High Court judge, Mrs Justice Swift... said she did not believe that the defendant's early release had led to Miss Murphy's death, and she went on to say that the defendant would have carried out the attack whenever he was released."

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This reads like a tragi-comedy script only it is a ******* complete tragedy, how can this fool judge say that his early release did not lead to her death - He killed her!



So she was dead meat anyway that must be a big consellation to her family and friends.... what a sh*t state this country is in...

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Old 11 December 2007, 07:45 PM
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"The senior High Court judge, Mrs Justice Swift... said she did not believe that the defendant's early release had led to Miss Murphy's death, and she went on to say that the defendant would have carried out the attack whenever he was released."
I don't believe it.... it's alright as he would have "done it sooner or later" you have to be FECKIN JOKING!!!!!

That's bollox and designed to stop the family claiming compensation... DISGUSTING!!
Old 11 December 2007, 07:53 PM
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this country is a shambles! have you read 1984 by george orwell? it would be better if we all learned more obedience. all violent crime and sexual crimes should carry a minimum sentence of death. our government are spineless corrupt vermin!
Old 11 December 2007, 08:02 PM
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So this is what it has come to, no room in jails, not enough forsight to see that we would need more spaces sometime back, say 10 years or so ago.

With this downright moronic attitude we might as well let all the ******* murderers, rapists, looneys, child molesters...in fact let em all out out as they are gonna reoffend anyway.
Old 11 December 2007, 08:15 PM
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Another 2 years before we can vote this shower of ***** out
Old 11 December 2007, 09:04 PM
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Does anyone else think its weird the Judge is called Mrs Justice Swift ???
Old 11 December 2007, 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by pimmo2000
Does anyone else think its weird the Judge is called Mrs Justice Swift ???
No, not really - given the subject matter i was concentrating on the problem, now you come to mention it...

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Old 11 December 2007, 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Habgood
No, not really - given the subject matter i was concentrating on the problem, now you come to mention it...
Maybe its just me being young... care to explain ?
Old 11 December 2007, 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by chris1scouser
all violent crime and sexual crimes should carry a minimum sentence of death.

minimum sentence? what would the maximum be?
Old 11 December 2007, 09:37 PM
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Old 11 December 2007, 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by PeteBrant
minimum sentence? what would the maximum be?
******* leftie whimp - get back to your Guardian!

Death, revivie them then kill 'em agian!

Pete - you have to admit it does not make good reading and is a decididly poor attitude to the problem.
Old 11 December 2007, 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Habgood
******* leftie whimp - get back to your Guardian!

Death, revivie them then kill 'em agian!

Pete - you have to admit it does not make good reading and is a decididly poor attitude to the problem.
Oh of course it doesn't make good reading - It's just that scousers comment tickled me - Probably totally inappropriate but there you go.

Aside from anything else, every effort should have been made to ensure that he was never able to get within 100 miles of her.

I mean if you are going to release someone early, then at least make sure his previous victim is well protected.
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its just another example of the sorry sad state of affairs this country is in.

For the judge to have said that, they basically must have been able to predict what the offender was going to do. They should have protected the girlfriend.

God knows they manage to do it for current cabinet members. Clearly it is possible to protect people, after all, if that was not the case most of the current shower we have would be 6ft under.
Old 11 December 2007, 09:56 PM
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Now on the Nu Labour reporting site:
BBC NEWS | UK | Woman killed after early release
Old 11 December 2007, 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by PeteBrant
Oh of course it doesn't make good reading - It's just that scousers comment tickled me - Probably totally inappropriate but there you go.

Aside from anything else, every effort should have been made to ensure that he was never able to get within 100 miles of her.

I mean if you are going to release someone early, then at least make sure his previous victim is well protected.

Old 12 December 2007, 12:14 PM
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Nothing like having the judiciary in your pocket is there!

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Old 12 December 2007, 12:52 PM
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[QUOTE=Paul Habgood;7477082




"The senior High Court judge, Mrs Justice Swift... said she did not believe that the defendant's early release had led to Miss Murphy's death, and she went on to say that the defendant would have carried out the attack whenever he was released."

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So don't release him then? Surely if you thought he was still a danger then not releasing him early would give

a) time to assess his mental state
b) move his would be victim

Just nuts to say ah well she was as good as dead anyway so may as well save a couple of quid by not paying for his jail time now.
Old 12 December 2007, 12:56 PM
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A simple and effective punishment would be to tie the **** to the back bumper of a car so he is dragging behind and test the car's 0-60 times
Old 12 December 2007, 12:56 PM
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yes thats the spirit, lock up motorists who excessivly speed but throw out rapists and murderers to make room for them
Old 12 December 2007, 01:26 PM
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Death penalty for all major criminals and repeat offenders = space in prisons now available!

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Old 12 December 2007, 01:33 PM
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The scumbag was released 2 weeks early - its highly likely he'd have done it even if he'd served the full term.
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Jack straw is a fecking joke, the demon headmaster lookalike should be sacked and not be allowed into government again.
Old 12 December 2007, 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by kingofturds
Jack straw is a fecking joke, the demon headmaster lookalike should be sacked and not be allowed into government again.

Aye, they are ALL a feckin joke.
Old 12 December 2007, 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by MJW
The scumbag was released 2 weeks early - its highly likely he'd have done it even if he'd served the full term.
Just read the BBC report. Trying to save money by not assessing people <12month sentences and giving them early release.

I don't know that the Tories would be any better. Mostly, recent British governments have done nothing but downsize infrastructure, sell off contracts and facilities or sub-contract.

J.
Old 12 December 2007, 05:55 PM
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Another knee-jerk SN post.

He was let out 18 days earlier than sentenced.
Old 12 December 2007, 06:00 PM
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No room for that here FP...
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True.

Maybe we should double everone's sentence - just in case.

And then keep doubling so they die in prison - just in case.
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No: pass me a rope.
Old 12 December 2007, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by fatherpierre
Another knee-jerk SN post.

He was let out 18 days earlier than sentenced.
Not really a knee jerk SN post

Paul has highlighted the fact that a man who battered his GF got 20 weeks in prison and let out on early release under the new scheme (we have no room so you can go home now thanks) and that a woman got 18 months for benefit fraud

20 weeks for battering a girlfriend

12 months for causing a non fatal RTA (from another thread on here)

18 months for benefit fraud

Utter joke
Old 12 December 2007, 06:29 PM
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