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Old 01 December 2007, 03:53 PM
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at what point in the wash cycle does the washing machine use hot water?

I'm pretty sure my washing machine is not using hot water at all, how can I tell .

If there is a stain on a shirt for example I have to spot treat and rewash (inc coffee) that makes me think it's not using hot water...

Old 01 December 2007, 03:54 PM
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At the start... when the powder goes in.

Put your hand to the window - you will feel the heat
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Originally Posted by Kieran_Burns
At the start... when the powder goes in.

Put your hand to the window - you will feel the heat
did that, freezing cold water.

having said that, it takes about 3 bloody minutes for hot water to reach my kitchen from the storage tank

maybe I should run the kitchen tap before I start the washing machine.
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Buy a Miele - only uses a cold water feed and heats what it needs... of course this doesn't help your situation much...
Old 01 December 2007, 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Kieran_Burns
Buy a Miele - only uses a cold water feed and heats what it needs... of course this doesn't help your situation much...
do you have shares in Miele

rather buy a Siemens or Bosch.

omfg if's its fullt itegrated how do I get it out
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Are there hot [red] and cold [blue] pipes connected from your plumbing into the washing machine or does it only use cold water to fill and then heat the water up with its own heating element?

Some washing machines can take both hot and cold but will also work only with a cold water fill usiong a Y piece to connect cold into both the hot and the cold inlets.

Anyway first of all pull the machine out, turn off one or both taps in you have them, and carefully unscrew the hose or hoses at the back of the machine. There may be a small fine wire filter. Check this/these are not blocked. Re-assemble.

Now check the flexible water pipe or pipes are not kinked or damaged.

Then make sure that one or both [if you have them] of the taps are fully on.

Double check for leaks and that you have not taken the discharge pipe out of its waste pipe before putting the machine back in place.

Put a wash on - preferably towels on a very hot 90 degree wash.

Wait until the machine is well into the wash cycle, lots of froth and tumbling and stuff and then put your handle on the bottom of the glass door. It should be warm! If not you may have a problem.

Can you see where the water comes out of the kitchen/laundry room [depends how posh you are!]? If you can, when the machine empties on the wash cycle see if the water coming out is hot.

Better still, get a large mug, capture some of the water and take its temperature. You can use the tip of a meat thermometer if you have one. Obviously the water will have cooled a bit but if you put the machine on a 90 degree hot wash for the towels it should still have a pretty high reading.

Of course, if it is stone cold, you've got a problem!

If you replace, buy a Miele from John Lewis. Costs more but ours is 20 years old and only needed a spannerman once to replace the motor brushes and I can still get the spare parts for it today!

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Old 01 December 2007, 04:17 PM
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thanks noooby..

its an apartment complex with everything concealed

I cant pull the washer out as there in a plimth at the bottom which is nicely sealed to the floow, I dont really want to damage this.

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What brand of washing machine ist it ?
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Ours died last weekend !
The new one only has a cold feed....apparently most washers use nearly no hot water as the cold is supplied at mains pressure, while the hot dribbles out of the tank, and as you found is cold for about a minute anyway...

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Originally Posted by gazza-uk
thanks noooby..

its an apartment complex with everything concealed

I cant pull the washer out as there in a plimth at the bottom which is nicely sealed to the floow, I dont really want to damage this.
Problem is you will have to dismantle it if you want a repair man to look at it for you anyway.

Are you sure you can't just carefully ease the bottom of the plinth out? Use a stanley knife to carefully cut the sealant which should then just peel off afterwards.

Fresh sealant is easy to apply afterwards.
Old 01 December 2007, 11:43 PM
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how old is your machine? - if it is not getting stains out, your heater has probable failed .. Also - does your macine have a temperature selector dial/****?? - check is isnt set on **COLD**
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Originally Posted by nooobyscoooby
Problem is you will have to dismantle it if you want a repair man to look at it for you anyway.

Are you sure you can't just carefully ease the bottom of the plinth out? Use a stanley knife to carefully cut the sealant which should then just peel off afterwards.

Fresh sealant is easy to apply afterwards.
lol @ the extra o in scooby
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Originally Posted by gazza-uk
lol @ the extra o in scooby
didnt stay banned for long............................
Old 02 December 2007, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by computerangel
What brand of washing machine ist it ?
Zanussi ZJD 1285
Old 02 December 2007, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by albob
how old is your machine? - if it is not getting stains out, your heater has probable failed .. Also - does your macine have a temperature selector dial/****?? - check is isnt set on **COLD**
no temp dial, as the dryer does not seem to work it maybe the same heater?

saying that, the heater has not worked for the last year or so, it was the coffee stain that made me investigate
Old 02 December 2007, 10:25 PM
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the dryer has a seperate heater.....
Old 02 December 2007, 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by gazza-uk
lol @ the extra o in scooby
Thanks Gazza - I'm addicted to SN but expect it will be nooooooooooooooooooobyscoooooooooooooooooby unless I can hold my tongue!
Old 02 December 2007, 11:14 PM
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Modern washing machines only have a cold water feed. The machine itself heats the water to temperature. Mainly because modern machones use little water so with the run needed from the hot water tank they were always filling with cold water from the hot tank anyway!

Isn't the door also double glazed as well, so you wouldn;t necessarially tell how warm it is by touch?

Not that any of this helps the OP!
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