DCI Gene Hunt

What a load of wasters! sack the feckin lot of them!

Sonic'

They should lock them in the cells with the inmates (oops sorry I mean 'Clients')

PeteBrant

Hopefully the government will back down and actually award the payrise they promised, thus ending the strike.

Abdabz

Hopefully they will realise the error of their ways and return to work.

jjones

knowing a prison guard if i were you i would be more concerned about what the govt allow prisoners to get away with. also being attacked in a pub by a previous "client" isn't most peoples cup of tea.

PeteBrant

What's the error of thier ways, then? You mean they should allow thier employer to shaft them?

Leslie

Gird up your loins DCI-you may be busy shortly.

Les

kingofturds

iTrader: (1)

Pay is lousy, morale is low, record numbers of attacks on officers, and the fact they have to treat the scum like royalty as not to breach their human rights. I would strike too

DCI Gene Hunt

....................... Seriously though, what a crappy stunt to pull at 7am, the old "we're not playing anymore" line ..... still without them there at least they'll be more like prisons should be

PeteBrant

I'm going to start a book on how long it takes the phrase "human rights" to be mentioned in a thread.

Prasius

iTrader: (1)

My folks have a couple of Prision Wardens as neighbours, and I am good friends with another.

Considering their conditions of service, the utter crap they have to put up with at work on a daily basis, constant scrutany by the press, lawyers, and clueless civil servants, and the joke of a below inflation pay-rise which was STAGED! I don't blame them for striking. (and you won't here me say that very often!)

I certainly wouldn't want to do their job. Partly because I'd end up kicking the crap out of some POS prisioner.. but thats besides the point

DCI Gene Hunt

Explain "shaft them"

DCI Gene Hunt

for the love of humanity just think about their human rights

PeteBrant

Well, they were given a 2.5% pay rise offer, which the union agreed. The government then informed them that it was going to be staged in 1.5% in April and 1% in Novermber. Of course, they didn't tell them this until after they had agreeed to the pay rise.

I.e. Shafted.

Now, I am not saying that it warrants strike action, but the union members obviously felt there was no alternative. Despite opnion, unions do not strike at the drop of a hat, they actually, you know, don't like doing it.

The Zohan

You might well, it won't change the fact that they are used and abused by some people Peter!

kingofturds

iTrader: (1)

81000 inmates, just imagine all the pyramids we could build if we stuck them in one big chain gang

DCI Gene Hunt

That's hardly shafted though....... and in turn they decided to 'withdraw' from a written agreement stating that they wouldn't strike

PeteBrant

Correct - If the government aren't going to stick to a formal agreement, why should they?

Abdabz

So they were offered a 2.5% pay rise and are getting a 2.5% pay rise all be it staggered? Hmmm shafted.

I am sick of seeing workers take on a job fully aware of the role description, pitfalls, risks and pay rate, only to go on strike when they dont get a nice payrise or their targets or functions changes a bit.

I am totally opposed to striking in any service and am dissapointed that unions are still afforded the power to facilitate such moves when folk should be glad that they're in a job they enjoy... If they're not in a job they enjoy then they should change vocation.

If pay and conditions become so unbearable, dont strike, **** off and get another job and let someone else fill your boots...

Come back Maggie, your country needs you.

Ooooo I hate striking me. Oooooo.

DCI Gene Hunt

Yep, if they don't like it they should **** off.... get the Polish in, they would make a better job of it, and wouldn't bitch about the pay either!

PeteBrant

So..

If I buy a car from you, agree a figure and when you are going to get it, but on signing over the vehicle to me, I then say "Actually I'll pay you half now and half in 6 months time" you'll be happy with that, will you?

DCI Gene Hunt

That is nothing like it..... we're talking about 1.5% & 1% of a feckin salary, not £20,000 pound lump sum..... the difference is probably worth £250 a year, and deferred for seven months.. so say £145 gross, £90 after tax?

Hardly a major shafting

Spoon

Could somebody explain the difference between what Pissy Lewis did on occasions and what DCI is doing here?

Please don't state the obvious that teachers pet can.

DCI Gene Hunt

Spoon you ******

PeteBrant

It is exactly like it.

Hlaf now, Half later

If you make an agreement, then stick to it, that what this is about - Not numbers.

DCI Gene Hunt

Its NOTHING like it

It's EXTRA to, over and above, an increase... of 2.5%, albeit part deferred.

Going on strike over that is PATHETIC, they'll lose more money by 'striking' than they're complaining they didn't get

Spoon

To whom it may concern, please no infractions on my behalf.

PeteBrant

Why are you obessed with the amount?

The agreement was to have the entire amount in April

The government reneged on the deal and went for 60% in April 40% in November

The union aren't aren't having any of it.

And good on them.

What you have said is that it's ok for the government to go back on an agreement but not the union - I don't see how this works.

DCI Gene Hunt

Its 1.5% and 1% of someones salary..... so stop trying to make this seem more than it is! its clearly not a 'shafting' its the union trying it on to screw more money out of the government for its members.

I never said it was 'OK' for anyone to go back on an agreement, but the truth is the unions have what they wanted (albeit deferred) and managed to use this reason to ditch the 'No Strike' agreement.

DCI Gene Hunt

I second this, he's sometimes funny so don't infract Spoon for trolling