Use of Blues and Twos.
28 June 2007, 09:33 PM
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Use of Blues and Twos.
Lately I have noticed an increasing use of blues and twos by the police and paramedics to get through red lights and road works. Now I think it is vitally important that people get out of the way of emergency vehicles when they are attending an EMERGENCY. However is it not a little naughty for the blues and twos to be used in non emergency situations?
28 June 2007, 10:26 PM
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You can get suspended from driving if you're found to be abusing the exemptions of the RTA given to you.
It rarely happens IMO.
Unless it's an emergency why would any driver want to risk their life by driving fast through traffic? We're at work and getting paid to be stuck in traffic - doesn't bother me!
It rarely happens IMO.
Unless it's an emergency why would any driver want to risk their life by driving fast through traffic? We're at work and getting paid to be stuck in traffic - doesn't bother me!
28 June 2007, 10:30 PM
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So there you have the truth!
28 June 2007, 10:39 PM
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They were probably sent a call whilst taking her home, allowing them to go on blues.
A person sat in the back of car without a trained radio ear won't know what's going on.
A person sat in the back of car without a trained radio ear won't know what's going on.
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28 June 2007, 10:42 PM
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it does happened. Brothers friend had accident hitting curb. GF was with him and they called police as the car was just beyond a blind corner in very slippery conditions. Police arrived and offered to take his GF home. They obliged and on the way there the police turned on the sirens so they could get through traffic quicker.
So there you have the truth!
So there you have the truth!
28 June 2007, 10:55 PM
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I work in central London where traffic is 24/7 and it's rather busy!
Very dangerous to go fast, so I only do it when I have to.
All the crap about late for your kebab etc is just that - crap.
The cars are fitted with black boxes that show exactly what speed you're doing at any given time along with if your blues are on, what gear you're in, how hard you swerve/brake etc. Link that to the computer onboard that tells you what call you're going to or what car you have just done a check on and you can't really get away with too much...........
It's simple to get to use your blues legally anyway - just tack yourself onto an emergency call.
Very dangerous to go fast, so I only do it when I have to.
All the crap about late for your kebab etc is just that - crap.
The cars are fitted with black boxes that show exactly what speed you're doing at any given time along with if your blues are on, what gear you're in, how hard you swerve/brake etc. Link that to the computer onboard that tells you what call you're going to or what car you have just done a check on and you can't really get away with too much...........
It's simple to get to use your blues legally anyway - just tack yourself onto an emergency call.
28 June 2007, 11:00 PM
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I work in central London where traffic is 24/7 and it's rather busy!
Very dangerous to go fast, so I only do it when I have to.
All the crap about late for your kebab etc is just that - crap.
The cars are fitted with black boxes that show exactly what speed you're doing at any given time along with if your blues are on, what gear you're in, how hard you swerve/brake etc. Link that to the computer onboard that tells you what call you're going to or what car you have just done a check on and you can't really get away with too much...........
It's simple to get to use your blues legally anyway - just tack yourself onto an emergency call.
Very dangerous to go fast, so I only do it when I have to.
All the crap about late for your kebab etc is just that - crap.
The cars are fitted with black boxes that show exactly what speed you're doing at any given time along with if your blues are on, what gear you're in, how hard you swerve/brake etc. Link that to the computer onboard that tells you what call you're going to or what car you have just done a check on and you can't really get away with too much...........
It's simple to get to use your blues legally anyway - just tack yourself onto an emergency call.
28 June 2007, 11:04 PM
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I'm not even sure what made you think that they were using their blues and twos just to get through the hold up in the first place. Is it not posiible that they are actually responding to an emergency when going through red lights and road works etc.
28 June 2007, 11:08 PM
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Yes, usually.
Althought it is open to scrutiny at any time. And there are lots of accidents/scrapes, meaning they are checked a fair bit.
When it comes down to it, why would you risk going fast through traffic other than when it's required? Most drivers on the roads panic and are completely unpredictable when you approach as they crap themselves thinking they are getting pulled over. Plus, the novelty of going through red lights etc soon wears off.
After a 10 minute fast run in traffic you usually have a headache and need 30 mins to chill back down, such is the concentration required to cut through traffic safely.
Althought it is open to scrutiny at any time. And there are lots of accidents/scrapes, meaning they are checked a fair bit.
When it comes down to it, why would you risk going fast through traffic other than when it's required? Most drivers on the roads panic and are completely unpredictable when you approach as they crap themselves thinking they are getting pulled over. Plus, the novelty of going through red lights etc soon wears off.
After a 10 minute fast run in traffic you usually have a headache and need 30 mins to chill back down, such is the concentration required to cut through traffic safely.
28 June 2007, 11:10 PM
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In a Police Car all the information is recorded in a black box type device.
If you're blue lighting when you shouldn't and something goes wrong you're going to be in deep ****, not worth the risk!!
If you're blue lighting when you shouldn't and something goes wrong you're going to be in deep ****, not worth the risk!!
28 June 2007, 11:45 PM
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The 530D has proper RWD and needs a bit of love when going around corners in the wet
and will do 80 - 100k from everyday heavy use. So much for their economy though. 11/16mpg normally, but it does get spanked!
28 June 2007, 11:56 PM
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Wouldn't mind one, but they're too easy to drive and would take much of the fun away............ Plus, they wouldn't take the abuse and generally blow up after a year from colleagues that have used them.
The 530D has proper RWD and needs a bit of love when going around corners in the wet and will do 80 - 100k from everyday heavy use.
So much for their economy though. 11/16mpg normally, but it does get spanked!
The 530D has proper RWD and needs a bit of love when going around corners in the wet
and will do 80 - 100k from everyday heavy use. So much for their economy though. 11/16mpg normally, but it does get spanked!
29 June 2007, 03:13 AM
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What about if you are at a red light and there is an emergency vehicle behind you, and the only way it can get past is if you drive through red. Are you allowed through to let the emergency vehicle pass ? What if there is a camera on the lights ? Any ideas.
29 June 2007, 06:17 AM
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In theory yes, however I have heard of cases where the camera has photographed the driver going through the lights and they were reported. Totally bizarre in my opinion and I hope it got quashed at court.
In some cases, we use the blues to get through the lights, but I can honestly say that I have never done it or seen anyone do it for stuff like meal breaks. Some emergencies need a silent approach (and blue lights can also reflect of buildings etc). In these cases we try and get there as fast as we can, but motorists won’t know what we are doing so won’t move out of the way. If we can speed our progress up in anyway (like going through lights) then we do.
Other times we use them when not in an emergency is to get to an area faster – area searches and such like. Remember also that after the lights the road will be clear – so there will be no need to have the blues and twos on once through the lights.
In some cases, we use the blues to get through the lights, but I can honestly say that I have never done it or seen anyone do it for stuff like meal breaks. Some emergencies need a silent approach (and blue lights can also reflect of buildings etc). In these cases we try and get there as fast as we can, but motorists won’t know what we are doing so won’t move out of the way. If we can speed our progress up in anyway (like going through lights) then we do.
Other times we use them when not in an emergency is to get to an area faster – area searches and such like. Remember also that after the lights the road will be clear – so there will be no need to have the blues and twos on once through the lights.
29 June 2007, 10:24 AM
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I would have thought you had to be pretty dumb or already harbouring some strong anti-police thoughts to assume they use there lights to jump traffic for a burger.
29 June 2007, 10:29 AM
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In theory yes, however I have heard of cases where the camera has photographed the driver going through the lights and they were reported. Totally bizarre in my opinion and I hope it got quashed at court.
In some cases, we use the blues to get through the lights, but I can honestly say that I have never done it or seen anyone do it for stuff like meal breaks. Some emergencies need a silent approach (and blue lights can also reflect of buildings etc). In these cases we try and get there as fast as we can, but motorists won’t know what we are doing so won’t move out of the way. If we can speed our progress up in anyway (like going through lights) then we do.
Other times we use them when not in an emergency is to get to an area faster – area searches and such like. Remember also that after the lights the road will be clear – so there will be no need to have the blues and twos on once through the lights.
In some cases, we use the blues to get through the lights, but I can honestly say that I have never done it or seen anyone do it for stuff like meal breaks. Some emergencies need a silent approach (and blue lights can also reflect of buildings etc). In these cases we try and get there as fast as we can, but motorists won’t know what we are doing so won’t move out of the way. If we can speed our progress up in anyway (like going through lights) then we do.
Other times we use them when not in an emergency is to get to an area faster – area searches and such like. Remember also that after the lights the road will be clear – so there will be no need to have the blues and twos on once through the lights.
29 June 2007, 10:37 AM
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I've watched Police go through massive traffic before near where I used to work, I watched them behind me through about half a mile of traffic, then they got to the clear road, drove into the BP garage (blue lights off) and were stuffing danish's and coffee into their mouths by the time I got there.
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29 June 2007, 10:44 AM
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Ive noticed more coppers on the roads using the lights but no siren and only put the siren on when they hit lights. Is that something to do with the level of call theyre attending?
29 June 2007, 11:04 AM
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Lately I have noticed an increasing use of blues and twos by the police and paramedics to get through red lights and road works. Now I think it is vitally important that people get out of the way of emergency vehicles when they are attending an EMERGENCY. However is it not a little naughty for the blues and twos to be used in non emergency situations?
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29 June 2007, 11:09 AM
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The thing that has annoyed me for years (having lived near two hospitals) is when its either very late at night or very early in the morning and you hear/see the ambulances driving down the road with their sirens blazing!!! Theres nothing on the road so why would they need them??