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Old 12 May 2007, 03:40 PM
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Right, just popped into town, parked on a yellow (or maybe a double), was gone less than 5 minutes and when I returned a lovely lady was writting me a ticket. I jumped in my car and started to move off.
She said "you've got a ticket",
I said "it has to be either attached to the car, or handed to me to be valid"
She said "you'll get it through the post anyway"


Question; who's right?
Old 12 May 2007, 03:42 PM
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You are.
Old 12 May 2007, 03:45 PM
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you are mate
bloke just won his case in the courts
someone will find a link to the case i'm sure
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Originally Posted by bugeyeandy
You are.
Good man
Old 12 May 2007, 03:45 PM
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think your self lucky, your alright lol


but, whats to stop her saying you threw it on the floor after she handed it to you pmsl, then ul be in the brown stuff
Old 12 May 2007, 03:47 PM
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Yep. Ask them for the picture of your car with ticket attached. Hope you werent a hazzard mind!!!
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Originally Posted by Diesel
Yep. Ask them for the picture of your car with ticket attached. Hope you werent a hazzard mind!!!
No, not a hazzard, parked where all the disabled park, no, not in a disabled bay before someone starts, just along the same road. They have a blue badge and I don't, so I get the ticket.

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Old 12 May 2007, 05:44 PM
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Who gave you the ticket, as I do believe that makes a difference.
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Originally Posted by Luminous
Who gave you the ticket, as I do believe that makes a difference.
Parking Attendent was trying to, but didn't quite manage it. Is that different from another form of traffic warden. I believe that she works for the local council, but I didn't have to time to ask.
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Sorry to be a pain, and put a fly in your soup. You still cn be fined. The ticket can be sent to you in the post, and the fine still stand.

The court case someone above reffered to is where the driver didn't know, or so he said , that there was a traffic warden writting him a ticket.

In your case you knew as you had a chat with her, hence you knew and you've driven off to avoid the fine. Leaving you, I'm afraid to say, liable.

On the other hand, she might not be bothered enough to file the ticket. Long a short of it you may or may not still get the ticket.
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didnt have time to ask, he was to busy generating a smoke cloud by spinning the wheels so she couldnt find the car t stick it on
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Originally Posted by jiffthejiffmanjaffa
Sorry to be a pain, and put a fly in your soup. You still cn be fined. The ticket can be sent to you in the post, and the fine still stand.

The court case someone above reffered to is where the driver didn't know, or so he said , that there was a traffic warden writting him a ticket.

In your case you knew as you had a chat with her, hence you knew and you've driven off to avoid the fine. Leaving you, I'm afraid to say, liable.

On the other hand, she might not be bothered enough to file the ticket. Long a short of it you may or may not still get the ticket.

he could say he never knew
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Yes, if its the police or someone working for the police (PCSO, traffic warden) then I believe you are stuffed. After all, if a police officer watches you rob someone, its not as if they cannot come after you another day should you escape.

Parking attendants are different. Different councils have different policies, and I do not know if their policies stand up in court. Some have a non antagonistic policy that allows motorists to go on their way should they get back to their car before the ticket is on the vehicle. Others are more hard line, and will try and make you wait.

In addition you have the practical aspect that the warden may just lie and say they placed the ticket on the car. Almost certainly any appeal you make to the council will fail, you will have to get an independant hearing for success. head over to pepipoo to get some advice/ do some research.
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Originally Posted by EVOLUTION
he could say he never knew
Sorry, Traffic Warden?????????? Where?
Old 12 May 2007, 05:57 PM
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Yeah, Pepipoo may be the place to go, I'll wait and see what happens first.
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You will receive the fine through the post and you will have to contest it. As to whom is right or wrong, will depend on how well you contest it and how the local authority decide. However, technically you were wrong in the first place for parking on the double yellow...... Good luck though!
Old 13 May 2007, 03:56 AM
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You are right mate.
Exactly same happened to me... I contested it... saying there was no photo of the ticket on the car, there was no ticket on the car nor was I handed a ticket by the attendant.
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Originally Posted by gpssti4
Right, just popped into town, parked on a yellow (or maybe a double), was gone less than 5 minutes and when I returned a lovely lady was writting me a ticket. I jumped in my car and started to move off.
She said "you've got a ticket",
I said "it has to be either attached to the car, or handed to me to be valid"
She said "you'll get it through the post anyway"


Question; who's right?
There has just been a high court case where the defendant drove off before the ticket was served upon him, or the car. He won his case and transport for london lost. The ticket must be served. Wait for the ticket, if it does arrive through the post, then quote this high court case.

I will try and find the name and case number from the high court.

Edit- Simeon Ademolake was the bloke who fought his case and won

You can park illegally if you’re quick-Life & Style-Driving-TimesOnline

Andy

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Old 13 May 2007, 10:42 AM
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i thought the had to take a pic with it on the car too!?

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Theres no legal requirement to take a photo wilth the ticket on the car, thats just extra evidence to prove the car was double parked, and that the traffic warden isn't making it up.
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There was no ticket on the car as she was still writing it! Maybe she took a photo of the car, but, not with the ticket attached.

I guess I'll sit abck and wait.

I do have another get out clause at the moment, which I don't want to mention incase they correct it! Will post afterwards if I need to use it.

Many thanks all, looks like I may have to fight it, oh well, worse things happen at sea.
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Since it is a question of extracting money from you, I will be surprised if you get away with it. Best of luck anyway.

Les
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Originally Posted by Leslie
Since it is a question of extracting money from you, I will be surprised if you get away with it. Best of luck anyway.

Les
wrong! he was never served with it, therefore the ticket process was never completed
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And bear in mind there is CCTV everywhere..........
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Originally Posted by Leslie
Since it is a question of extracting money from you, I will be surprised if you get away with it. Best of luck anyway.

Les
There is settled case law, so unless they can traffic warden can prove service with or without photo evidence, its a non valid ticket.

Andy
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