Ferrari 308 GTB
17 December 2001, 07:59 PM
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I know it isn't strictly scooby related, but I am researching options that may see me change my car in the spring. (thoughts of changing brought on by STI type UK)
I just noticed a 1981 308 GTB in a local specialist car dealer forecourt, can anyone point me in a direction that would give me some info on this model.
Andy
I just noticed a 1981 308 GTB in a local specialist car dealer forecourt, can anyone point me in a direction that would give me some info on this model.
Andy
17 December 2001, 08:33 PM
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Best bet is to get in touch with the owners club at http://www.ferrariownersclub.co.uk and talk with Peter Everingham, who I think is the club sec. He is very approachable as are most owners.
Also, try getting hold of a book called 'Original Ferrari V8' by Keith Bluemel. It covers the 308/328 GTB and GTS.
Also, try getting hold of a book called 'Original Ferrari V8' by Keith Bluemel. It covers the 308/328 GTB and GTS.
17 December 2001, 08:45 PM
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Andy I tried searching but came up with sweet FA
These may help you, they may not!!!
Maintenance advice.....
http://www.r-design.net/308/techtips.htm
Although I think I have found what you are looking for!!!
http://www.ferrari308.com/links.htm
Cheers
Michelle
These may help you, they may not!!!
Maintenance advice.....
http://www.r-design.net/308/techtips.htm
Although I think I have found what you are looking for!!!
http://www.ferrari308.com/links.htm
Cheers
Michelle
17 December 2001, 09:08 PM
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Originally posted by Andy W:
Try here 
[Edited to say I've realized that that was actually a 308 GTS]
[Edited by carl - 12/17/2001 9:11:21 PM]
I just noticed a 1981 308 GTB in a local specialist car dealer forecourt, can anyone point me in a direction that would give me some info on this model.
[Edited to say I've realized that that was actually a 308 GTS]
[Edited by carl - 12/17/2001 9:11:21 PM]
18 December 2001, 10:33 AM
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How much did that cost? Just seems a dtrange choice of car progressions from an Impreza 
. they are very unreliable and cost a small mint to keep on the road. They are also very dated in their styling etc (IMH).
. they are very unreliable and cost a small mint to keep on the road. They are also very dated in their styling etc (IMH).
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18 December 2001, 11:02 AM
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The ferrari 355 and 360 are supposed to be approaching everday ferrari status, but put mialge on them and they arent worth a penny.
It isnt a logical progression and performance will dissapoint you as will lack of reliability.
It isnt a logical progression and performance will dissapoint you as will lack of reliability.
18 December 2001, 11:05 AM
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Great looking cars!
Not cheap to run and not really an everyday sort of supercar in the way a 911 is.
Check out C&S for price guide there was a buyers guide in a recent edition, can't remember which one. There are a few non franchise servicing companies out there.
Big mileage Ferraris not worth much.
Not cheap to run and not really an everyday sort of supercar in the way a 911 is.
Check out C&S for price guide there was a buyers guide in a recent edition, can't remember which one. There are a few non franchise servicing companies out there.
Big mileage Ferraris not worth much.
18 December 2001, 11:21 AM
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Andy - If you show up in a suit and a 5 series they will let you test drive any of the used cars - The 308 is fairly tame - sounds superb, but only 240ish BHP and fairly heavy. Do they still have the testa rossa - now that is one awesome sounding car
18 December 2001, 11:47 AM
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Are you sure? I'm pretty convinced it was a 308.
(Edited so say I've found this http://members.aol.com/cotsmm/cott3_8.html)
[Edited by carl - 12/18/2001 11:48:58 AM]
(Edited so say I've found this http://members.aol.com/cotsmm/cott3_8.html)
[Edited by carl - 12/18/2001 11:48:58 AM]
18 December 2001, 12:03 PM
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Magnums car was infact a 308 GTS QV. There is no way it could be mistaken for a 328! 
LOL
Servicing is not cheap, Allow about 2K p/a if you're going to do 12,000 miles or so per year. Best places for service are not big dealers, but someone like Verdi or MHT or Terry Keys. Insurance would be cheap as it is now a classic car. They are nice to drive, but I found that the gear lever gets in the way. I'm 6ft 3 and have long legs, so not ideally suited to the Italian driving position.
Would have one over a similar aged 911. They are not too bad, but it's worth spending as much as you can on one in the first place. Try and get one that has had a recent belt service, as that is the killer. Plugs and fluids are all pretty common and standard stuff. If servicing has been done correctly, the engines will see 100,000 miles with little worry. Certainly less than a Scoob!
The engines are generally very reliable provided they have been serviced correctly. The cambelt runs the water pump and one or two other bits too, so these are v.important to keep in top order. If this is done, the rest should be OK.
Expect to pay from 10K for a snotter up to 27K for a low mileage minter. 328's are of course that little bit more expensive.
Matt
[Edited by MattOz - 12/18/2001 12:05:25 PM]
LOLServicing is not cheap, Allow about 2K p/a if you're going to do 12,000 miles or so per year. Best places for service are not big dealers, but someone like Verdi or MHT or Terry Keys. Insurance would be cheap as it is now a classic car. They are nice to drive, but I found that the gear lever gets in the way. I'm 6ft 3 and have long legs, so not ideally suited to the Italian driving position.
Would have one over a similar aged 911. They are not too bad, but it's worth spending as much as you can on one in the first place. Try and get one that has had a recent belt service, as that is the killer. Plugs and fluids are all pretty common and standard stuff. If servicing has been done correctly, the engines will see 100,000 miles with little worry. Certainly less than a Scoob!
The engines are generally very reliable provided they have been serviced correctly. The cambelt runs the water pump and one or two other bits too, so these are v.important to keep in top order. If this is done, the rest should be OK.
Expect to pay from 10K for a snotter up to 27K for a low mileage minter. 328's are of course that little bit more expensive.
Matt
[Edited by MattOz - 12/18/2001 12:05:25 PM]
18 December 2001, 12:47 PM
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Dear oh dear........some of you are saying lack of performance etc.....blag blah blah, not as good as a scooby.......
Now a scooby is good, but bloody hell!!!....this is a Fezzer we are talking about,jesus some people on here get so protective(and blind)......ITS A FERRARI!!!...... NO COMPARISON.
Now a scooby is good, but bloody hell!!!....this is a Fezzer we are talking about,jesus some people on here get so protective(and blind)......ITS A FERRARI!!!......
NO COMPARISON.
18 December 2001, 02:18 PM
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The "it's a ferrari" argument was heard every time a mate of mine fixed something else on his 348. Servicing horrendously expensive, always fixing things, cost a fortune to run.
When it goes, it sounds awesome and goes like a rocket, but I wouldn't want to run one myself.
I think it's true you can buy a Ferrari for sensible money, but just put aside a large sum for looking after it.
IC
When it goes, it sounds awesome and goes like a rocket, but I wouldn't want to run one myself.
I think it's true you can buy a Ferrari for sensible money, but just put aside a large sum for looking after it.
IC
18 December 2001, 02:21 PM
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Shaolin - I've driven the car in question - it has 1970's handling, 250 BHP, 70's brakes, 70's gearchange. It sounds superb, it looks good, it is nice to drive for a bit, but requires massive effort for steering, clutch and gearchange. I think a scoob is quicker and easier to drive slowly and quickly. You can't blame me for being brand protective, cos I drive a BM
18 December 2001, 04:14 PM
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308s are nice cars, though they need servicing often and that isn't cheap.
My mate bought one whilst contracting out in Zurich, it's a minter with low mileage and full history. The big thing there too is that most cars (especially supercars) are garaged away in nice bomb-proof bunkers. So the only thing that needs to be done it to get rid of the cobwebs.
Regards,
Beakie
My mate bought one whilst contracting out in Zurich, it's a minter with low mileage and full history. The big thing there too is that most cars (especially supercars) are garaged away in nice bomb-proof bunkers. So the only thing that needs to be done it to get rid of the cobwebs.
Regards,
Beakie
18 December 2001, 07:29 PM
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The 308 sounds like a great idea and I could afford to buy it but at £500 a service and £1200 for a timing belt service (its just had one done) I don't think I could afford to run it and buy and insure another car to run as well. Might still take it for a test drive anyway
A porsche 968 is another car that springs to mind, at £12k ish for a CS it may be more realistic and much younger than the 308, What do you guys reckon to one of these (may well allow me to keep the scoob too depending on insurance .
A porsche 968 is another car that springs to mind, at £12k ish for a CS it may be more realistic and much younger than the 308, What do you guys reckon to one of these (may well allow me to keep the scoob too depending on insurance .
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19 December 2001, 09:16 AM
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try checking out 911 Virgin if you are interested in a Porsche, I toyed with the idea of getting one before I opted for the RB5.
re: the Ferrari, I think I would get a Porsche if you where worried about servicing costs. A Porsche is still not gonna be cheap but they are reliable beasts and will run for ever if looked after.
http://www.911virgin.com/
oh, and they also sound the dogs b0110ck5
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[Edited by mattski2 - 12/19/2001 9:17:49 AM]
re: the Ferrari, I think I would get a Porsche if you where worried about servicing costs. A Porsche is still not gonna be cheap but they are reliable beasts and will run for ever if looked after.
http://www.911virgin.com/
oh, and they also sound the dogs b0110ck5
M
[Edited by mattski2 - 12/19/2001 9:17:49 AM]
19 December 2001, 11:18 AM
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I'd definitely recommend the change of heart. The 968 is'nt as nice a car as the 911.....but then it is cheaper. I'd go for a 911 or a 944 turbo......though the 911 looks the dogs dangly bits 
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As for the 308....I'd knock that straight on the head (IMHO)
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.As for the 308....I'd knock that straight on the head (IMHO)
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19 December 2001, 10:44 PM
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Cheers for the link, the 911 virgins site is well worth a visit, the ugly bug STI may well wait until they make the damn thing better (although the STI bumpers etc are a great improvement)
20 December 2001, 09:59 PM
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I have owned a 77 308 GT4 a 77 Fibre glass GTB and an 83 GTS QV, they do very good miles on most of the mechanicals, engines especialy good.
The biggest problem is with the rest of the bits like the electrics and window gear.If you are a mechanicaly minded guy you can cope, I have always done all of my own repairs and most of it is very easy. That includes clutch, brakes, cam belts, shocks and window lifters and a bit of engine elecs on the QV.
The biggest concern is that they are slow, if this car is a carby car it might have 250 Bhp but if it's an injected GTSi then it's more likely to be 220 Bhp, IE the slowest ever 308 !!.
The car is a lovely design and with the roof down makes a very pleasant drive. £12-15k for a GTSi, I sold my GTS QV 2 years ago in the winter for £19k when every one was expecting to get £30k so be careful.
The biggest problem is with the rest of the bits like the electrics and window gear.If you are a mechanicaly minded guy you can cope, I have always done all of my own repairs and most of it is very easy. That includes clutch, brakes, cam belts, shocks and window lifters and a bit of engine elecs on the QV.
The biggest concern is that they are slow, if this car is a carby car it might have 250 Bhp but if it's an injected GTSi then it's more likely to be 220 Bhp, IE the slowest ever 308 !!.
The car is a lovely design and with the roof down makes a very pleasant drive. £12-15k for a GTSi, I sold my GTS QV 2 years ago in the winter for £19k when every one was expecting to get £30k so be careful.
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I have owned a 77 308 GT4 a 77 Fibre glass GTB and an 83 GTS QV, they do very good miles on most of the mechanicals, engines especialy good.
The biggest problem is with the rest of the bits like the electrics and window gear.If you are a mechanicaly minded guy you can cope, I have always done all of my own repairs and most of it is very easy. That includes clutch, brakes, cam belts, shocks and window lifters and a bit of engine elecs on the QV.
The biggest concern is that they are slow, if this car is a carby car it might have 250 Bhp but if it's an injected GTSi then it's more likely to be 220 Bhp, IE the slowest ever 308 !!.
The car is a lovely design and with the roof down makes a very pleasant drive. £12-15k for a GTSi, I sold my GTS QV 2 years ago in the winter for £19k when every one was expecting to get £30k so be careful.
The biggest problem is with the rest of the bits like the electrics and window gear.If you are a mechanicaly minded guy you can cope, I have always done all of my own repairs and most of it is very easy. That includes clutch, brakes, cam belts, shocks and window lifters and a bit of engine elecs on the QV.
The biggest concern is that they are slow, if this car is a carby car it might have 250 Bhp but if it's an injected GTSi then it's more likely to be 220 Bhp, IE the slowest ever 308 !!.
The car is a lovely design and with the roof down makes a very pleasant drive. £12-15k for a GTSi, I sold my GTS QV 2 years ago in the winter for £19k when every one was expecting to get £30k so be careful.
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