KiwiGTI

2yo raped and murdered
3yo tortured
2yo made to fight each other
3 x 15yo murdered (at least victim one is completely innocent)

And that's probably just the tip of the iceberg.

Society really has become rotten.

LG John

3 years
6 months
community service
won't be caught.


...that's what I'm exaggerating of course but I feel I've made my point. I'm a good, decent guy but I'm under no illusions - if I wanted to know what its like to kill someone I could knife someone to death tonight and no danger would I ever be found. Even if they did find me because I've had an otherwise completely crime free life and because it was an act so crazy out of character I'd probably get off with an insanity plea. Joke. Criminals have no fear at all because the entire system is there to support their lifestyle.

AudiLover

You forgot

1000's of men contributing to the sex slave trade.

gatty

nanny state

politically correctness

fantacists in control

i will think of some more later

dpb

Those 'people' goading their offspring to fight each other 'for the camera'

moses

very sick indeed, we need a deterrant like beheading and cutting their scum hands aff, that should frighten the public from all this evil bullsh1t

The Snug Rhino

good call - then we could all behave like those sensible folk in the middle east.

moses

if only they had shariah as well

gatty

yes thats right lets all carry ak47s where scarlfs so you cant see who you are.

rant and rave all day and night as theres nothing else to do.

the pinikle of human civalization?

unclebuck

I could list a few more, but you get the picture.

gatty

who needs words

AudiLover

No surprises at them being white

gatty

cheers gillette

Enigma

sickening

Maz

iTrader: (34)

The case of poor Casey is especially harrowing. Truth be told I doubt if that sort of behaviour can be legislated for. However the punishment should fit the crime. A family member of mine who works as a taxi driver, took some distraught relatives of Casey's family to the house where this inexplicable act took place. It was all very hard to take in he said.

JTaylor

Things aren't great, for sure, but 60,609,148 people didn't commit one of these crimes. Show sympathy, repulsion, disgust and disbelief, but don't blame the country.

Buckrogers

Simple solutions
1. Bring back caning at school
2. Bring back National Service at 18
3. Out-source prisoners to Siberian prison camps

Maz

iTrader: (34)

Evening James. That is a valid point but I have to reluctantly agree with Kiwi's sentiment about society on a downward spiral as a whole. Cases such as the ones highlighted are thankfully very very rare, but they do still happen and happen more often now than in days of yore. As kids we used to wander everywhere without fear, but nowadays I wouldn't let my kids out of the street alone. Maybe we were foolhardy when young or perhaps I'm now paranoid as an adult.

JTaylor

Evening Maz; hope you're well.

I maintain that I can walk these streets and live my life free of fear. I know of nobody within my circle of friends, within my family or people with whom I associate professionally that are or have been victims of serious crime. I refuse to be frightened.

If people are scared then they become a victim. Who wants to be a victim?

Trout

iTrader: (1)

Although an iceberg that can at least be seen now - as in times gone by paedophilia and abuse just was hidden and never outed.

These are very sad crimes indeed - only the gun crime element is new - but still thankfully the merest fraction of what it is in some countries. This list would be a single evening in a single sub-precinct in Washington DC.

Rannoch

Maz

iTrader: (34)

Fine thanks, perhaps I am being paranoid. It seems in most of the cases the perpetrators of the crime were known to the victims thus not completely random. Still makes you think what state of mind would do something so unspeakably wrong.

andythejock01wrx

That's pretty much how I feel - apart from a couple of punch ups and some minor thefts, I've never been a victim of crime and neither have my pals.
I think there are significant sections of the country like that - but there are certainly crime ridden areas too. Very much dependent where you live.
I think much of the voilent crime in our country is drink related - although not apparently the disgraceful incidents referred to by the thread starter.

Andy

Trout

iTrader: (1)

Something that is supported by behavioural analysis in the US - lots of paranoia = lots of gun/violent crime

KiwiGTI

But to a degree that is putting your head in the sand. Most of us on here are going to be reasonably well-off.

Most of us aren't living in council estates and having our lives ruined by antisocials. Millions are.

How many on this forum live in Finsbury Park, Manor House, Tottenham, Brent, Lambeth, Elephant and Castle, Croydon, Camberwell (I have black friends who won't set foot there)?

The molestation stuff has always happened, but I'm still fairly certain that the social situation contributed to all of those attacks.

Would women have egged a 2yo to fight 30 years ago? 30 years ago would an intact family structure have helped prevent the other attacks?

And I still get angry when i read that they only got 11 years each for the torture on that girl.

chocolate_o_brian

iTrader: (22)

thank god im 22. no disrespect to all the soldiers etc out there, but i aint ever going into the army, to have my personality broken down and built up like a robot, how mr blair wants it developing. rather contoversial, i have my flame suit on ready.

andy

gatty

that gets my vote

D8MNS@R

& my vote as above this country has gone down hill shame............ people are going doing all this sickening stuff to others what is wrong with them ?

DCI Gene Hunt

Simple really..... uneducated retards emulating what they see on TV and hear in their rap music

///\oo/\\\

Its not just this country, though, is it?

Attrocities happen the world over.

KiwiGTI

OK, so that means we shouldn't bother doing anything about it?

Here's another one :

http://www.sheffieldtoday.net/ViewAr...8&SectionID=58