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Old 11 January 2007, 12:03 PM
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Default Interest Rates rise again

good news. It all helps.
Old 11 January 2007, 12:06 PM
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Needed to happen and will be 6/6.5 by the end of the year easily, maybe more if this rise doesn't curb spending and inflation. Inflation is at 2.7%, the HIGHEST it's been in the last 10 years and rising too. Council tax about to go up, no doubt energy bills etc. too.
Old 11 January 2007, 12:07 PM
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Yup as long as well this place(2nd viewing later fingers crossed), be a nice bargaining tool on the new build I have my eye on.
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Old 11 January 2007, 12:09 PM
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Whats the new rate? It wasn't on the midday news.
Old 11 January 2007, 12:11 PM
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5.25%
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I'm so glad that I decided signed up to a 5 yera fixed rate mortgage 2 days before it went up last time

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Old 11 January 2007, 12:11 PM
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The re may be a lot of repo X5's in the Auto trader if it carries on !
Old 11 January 2007, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Dracoro
Inflation is at 2.7%, the HIGHEST it's been in the last 10 years and rising too. Council tax about to go up, no doubt energy bills etc. too.
And even that is a manufactured false figure
Old 11 January 2007, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by davegtt
And even that is a manufactured false figure
Oh indeed, things that NL prats conveniently forget when bleating on comparing rates to 15/20 years ago that were higher although in reality a lot closer.

Does anyone have todays inflation rate as it were calculated 15/20 years ago? It'd be interesting to see what inflation is really doing by comparing like with like.
Old 11 January 2007, 12:21 PM
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Factor in sky rocketing utility bills and inflation is waay more than NL pretend it is.
Old 11 January 2007, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by SteveScooby
I'm so glad that I decided signed up to a 5 yera fixed rate mortgage 2 days before it went up last time
Glad I don't have a mortgage at all any more and live on interest payments from savings.
Old 11 January 2007, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Dracoro
Needed to happen and will be 6/6.5 by the end of the year easily, maybe more if this rise doesn't curb spending and inflation. Inflation is at 2.7%, the HIGHEST it's been in the last 10 years and rising too. Council tax about to go up, no doubt energy bills etc. too.
Do you think this is Blair's leaving present to Brown ??

And any of you who think that the Bank of England are independent & don't get pressurised by the Treasury are sorely mistaken.
Old 11 January 2007, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by unclebuck
Glad I don't have a mortgage at all any more and live on interest payments from savings.

Lol, fair point but I'm only 23
Old 11 January 2007, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Adidas
Do you think this is Blair's leaving present to Brown ??
Hardly, this is down the chancellor of the exchequer, he controls (sort of ) the economy etc. TB has less impact than GB on this front.

However it will be GBs leaving present to whichever 'poor' soul he put in at number 11 if & when he takes over number 10 officially. He wants someone else in soon to take the flack for his mismanagment.
Old 11 January 2007, 12:43 PM
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A rare moment of being glad we rent and have some savings earning interest.

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Old 11 January 2007, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Dracoro
Needed to happen and will be 6/6.5 by the end of the year easily, maybe more if this rise doesn't curb spending and inflation. Inflation is at 2.7%, the HIGHEST it's been in the last 10 years and rising too. Council tax about to go up, no doubt energy bills etc. too.
Sorry but there is no way we will be 6.5% by the end of the year.
Old 11 January 2007, 12:51 PM
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Too little too late IMO - they BOE havent tackled inflation fast enough. Wouldnt be surprised if they up'd to 5.5% as early as next month.

Anyone's guess as to how high rates will go.
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The official inflation rate was a fiddle when it was first instituted but it has now been doctored to bear little resemblance to what is really happening to prices.

The real inflation rate is more likely to be what the politicians calculate their pay rises and expenses/allowances on of course. They are after all far more equal then we ordinary people are!

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Old 11 January 2007, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by SteveScooby
I'm so glad that I decided signed up to a 5 yera fixed rate mortgage 2 days before it went up last time
My 5 year fixed ends in November this year.

I checked last week on current 5/10 year fixed rates, and before todays rise, I'll end up paying more a month on less capital than what I pay now.

Bugger

Then the Government say they don't want people to have pay rises over inflation.

So Mr. Brown, just how am I going to pay my extra mortgage payments, and ever increasing utility bills. Oh yes, and the ever growing Tax money you take off us. You can't keep on taxing us more and not want us to get pay rises to pay for it all.
Old 11 January 2007, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by marky1
Sorry but there is no way we will be 6.5% by the end of the year.
Why not, it's only 4/5 more rises i.e. once every 2/3 months. Could happen easily if inflation isn't curbed. And that's assuming they only rise at .25% each time, they could go for a .5% rise (which they should do as people pay more attention to one .5% rise than two .25% ones)
Old 11 January 2007, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by stilover
My 5 year fixed ends in November this year.

I checked last week on current 5/10 year fixed rates, and before todays rise, I'll end up paying more a month on less capital than what I pay now.

Bugger

Then the Government say they don't want people to have pay rises over inflation.

So Mr. Brown, just how am I going to pay my extra mortgage payments, and ever increasing utility bills. Oh yes, and the ever growing Tax money you take off us. You can't keep on taxing us more and not want us to get pay rises to pay for it all.
Just stop working and let the state pay.

Not sure who has it wrong. Those that work every hour to pay for living on this septic isle or those that sit on their ***** with their hands out.
Old 11 January 2007, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Dracoro
Why not, it's only 4/5 more rises i.e. once every 2/3 months. Could happen easily if inflation isn't curbed. And that's assuming they only rise at .25% each time, they could go for a .5% rise (which they should do as people pay more attention to one .5% rise than two .25% ones)
Well if you look at short sterling DEC 07 is pricing rates at 5.75 (94.270). If you think we will be at 6.5 then you need to be smashing some short sterling futures in size because you are way off the market!
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Funny - Mortgage holders get all defensive and poo poo any more rises.
Savers smile and hope it gets "worse"
Old 11 January 2007, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by J4CKO
The re may be a lot of repo X5's in the Auto trader if it carries on !
Bloody excellent news for us rich London X5 drivers
Old 11 January 2007, 01:09 PM
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Great news! More money for my mortgage I'm so happy I'm almost moist with cheeriness
Keep them rising... The more I have to spend on my mortgage the less I will have for the fun things in life
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Originally Posted by Matteeboy
Funny - Mortgage holders get all defensive and poo poo any more rises.
Savers smile and hope it gets "worse"
Not poo pooing at all, just showing the market is expecting rises of another 50 basis points by year end, sure it may be out by 25, but not by 75.
Old 11 January 2007, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by marky1
Well if you look at short sterling DEC 07 is pricing rates at 5.75 (94.270). If you think we will be at 6.5 then you need to be smashing some short sterling futures in size because you are way off the market!
I expect that will change seeing as the BOE have shown today they arent completely in GB's pocket, and are starting to look like they will tackle inflation afterall. Saying that I'd be susprised if rates reached 6.5% by the end of the year, my money would be only 6% and 6.25% tops.
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It's times like this I'm glad I don't have a mortgage and the cars were bought outright. Just had to listen to my neighbour moaning how his house will be unaffordable if the rate goes up much more
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I'm surprised they raised it in January, but still think it is too little, too late to control inflation.

Now we just need a house price crash

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