Nick Griffin - unanimous not guilty verdict
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Nick Griffin - unanimous not guilty verdict
A unanimous not guilty verdict has been delivered as the BBC's shabby and underhand attempt to frame Nick Griffin fails miserably.
"What has just happened shows Tony Blair and the government and the BBC that they can take our taxes but they cannot take our hearts, they cannot take our tongues and they cannot take our freedom."
"They are a politically correct, politically biased organisation which has wasted licence-fee payers' money to bring two people in a legal, democratic, peaceful party to court over speaking nothing more than the truth."
(a shame that the BBC's axing of Top Gear is not subject to a trial by jury)
"What has just happened shows Tony Blair and the government and the BBC that they can take our taxes but they cannot take our hearts, they cannot take our tongues and they cannot take our freedom."
"They are a politically correct, politically biased organisation which has wasted licence-fee payers' money to bring two people in a legal, democratic, peaceful party to court over speaking nothing more than the truth."
(a shame that the BBC's axing of Top Gear is not subject to a trial by jury)
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"What has just happened shows Tony Blair and the government and the BBC that they can take our taxes but they cannot take our hearts, they cannot take our tongues and they cannot take our freedom."
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Shame they diddn't hang the holocaust denying, lying, terroist supporting piece of ****.
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Personally can't stand the BNP but this was the right decision. And what Nick Griffin said is the truth.
It's a shame someone can't come up with a party that tells it as it is WITHOUT the racist overtones
And as for denying the holocaust........
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I liked Mel in 'Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome'....... but who gives a flying **** what the short **** **** thinks in real life.........
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what a great bloke! all the spine less mainstream mp s should be shi**ing themselves nick griffin is the future of all English men and woman. He has Bollo*ks and as far as i can see most working class i come across has total respect for him.
before you human rights pc puffs reply with some big words and bore the **** off me , have a read of there web site and tell me they are racist?
At last a judge got it right
before you human rights pc puffs reply with some big words and bore the **** off me , have a read of there web site and tell me they are racist?
At last a judge got it right
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Originally Posted by gatty
At last a judge got it right
Classic New Labour response - because they didn't get the result they wanted they are now saying that they will have to modify the law.
The *******s.
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power to the people!
my thoughts exactly, lets tighten the democratic law on freedom of speech.So the bnp cant be heard.
they will be adopting the sharie?/sharry?/shazam? law berore soon then we will be fooked .
my thoughts exactly, lets tighten the democratic law on freedom of speech.So the bnp cant be heard.
they will be adopting the sharie?/sharry?/shazam? law berore soon then we will be fooked .
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A particularly sensitive subject however my point of view is this:
Its okay for Islamic fundamentalists to stand on the high street (there's one in Slough every Saturday) publicising some very violent ideals.
At Wembley market every Sunday there are a number of stalls selling videos of coalition soldiers being killed and DVDs on why the Bible is satanic. This is in addition to numerous stalls selling T-shirts and other promotional material outwardly promoting violence of the worst kind.
It is also allowed for nearly every Muslim to think it's okay to murder gay people.. in Saudi Arabia and many other Muslim countries the death penalty is applied just for being gay..... or having the shopping dropped off at the back door, so to say.
Hypothetically if you rotate these events 180°:
and you stood in Slough high Street promoting hate towards Islamic fundamentalists
You sold DVDs of Muslims being killed and T-shirts at Wembley market promoting violence against Muslims
What would happen I would imagine you will be put in prison very quickly.....
What Nick Griffin said at the speeches most controversial .was nothing compared to the above. This country is sick.
Nick Griffin described Islam as a “wicked vicious faith” and it was this phrase which was to be the subject of a police investigation by the West Yorkshire force. I say take a trip to Wembley market on Sunday you will find stronger words than wicked and vicious directed towards....... dare I say it British people
Its okay for Islamic fundamentalists to stand on the high street (there's one in Slough every Saturday) publicising some very violent ideals.
At Wembley market every Sunday there are a number of stalls selling videos of coalition soldiers being killed and DVDs on why the Bible is satanic. This is in addition to numerous stalls selling T-shirts and other promotional material outwardly promoting violence of the worst kind.
It is also allowed for nearly every Muslim to think it's okay to murder gay people.. in Saudi Arabia and many other Muslim countries the death penalty is applied just for being gay..... or having the shopping dropped off at the back door, so to say.
Hypothetically if you rotate these events 180°:
and you stood in Slough high Street promoting hate towards Islamic fundamentalists
You sold DVDs of Muslims being killed and T-shirts at Wembley market promoting violence against Muslims
What would happen I would imagine you will be put in prison very quickly.....
What Nick Griffin said at the speeches most controversial .was nothing compared to the above. This country is sick.
Nick Griffin described Islam as a “wicked vicious faith” and it was this phrase which was to be the subject of a police investigation by the West Yorkshire force. I say take a trip to Wembley market on Sunday you will find stronger words than wicked and vicious directed towards....... dare I say it British people
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I had a little bet with myself as to who would post this - and I wish I could have had Ladbroke take the odds
To be clear he was not charged with racism as being racist is not illegal. The test was whether he was inciting racial hatred which is illegal.
There can be no doubt that Nick Griffin and a significant proportion of the members of the BNP are racist. If you want any proof just listen to what he has to say.
However the jury in this case found that he was not guilty of inciting racial hatred, even though there is widespread agreement that his views are repugnant, a verdict I would (reluctantly) agree with.
As for the BBC they achieved exactly what they set out to do in my view which is to demonstrate the views of the one of the leaders of a key political party in the UK. Not one that would get my vote.
As for the implication that not agreeing makes me either politically correct or a puff is as ignorant as most of the other BNP followers, the same followers who assume all muslims are terrorists in the same way that all Catholics must be members of the IRA .
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To be clear he was not charged with racism as being racist is not illegal. The test was whether he was inciting racial hatred which is illegal.
There can be no doubt that Nick Griffin and a significant proportion of the members of the BNP are racist. If you want any proof just listen to what he has to say.
However the jury in this case found that he was not guilty of inciting racial hatred, even though there is widespread agreement that his views are repugnant, a verdict I would (reluctantly) agree with.
As for the BBC they achieved exactly what they set out to do in my view which is to demonstrate the views of the one of the leaders of a key political party in the UK. Not one that would get my vote.
As for the implication that not agreeing makes me either politically correct or a puff is as ignorant as most of the other BNP followers, the same followers who assume all muslims are terrorists in the same way that all Catholics must be members of the IRA .
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goldman your the rightman!
stop beating around the bush and dont tar catholics with the same dirty brush as muslims as a proddy i am scratching my head at such statments
like goldman i have walked certain streets in brum to find plenty of anti western material on offer?
nick griffin , i shake your hand. A bloke with great big boll**ks!
stop beating around the bush and dont tar catholics with the same dirty brush as muslims as a proddy i am scratching my head at such statments
like goldman i have walked certain streets in brum to find plenty of anti western material on offer?
nick griffin , i shake your hand. A bloke with great big boll**ks!
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Originally Posted by Rannoch
I had a little bet with myself as to who would post this - and I wish I could have had Ladbroke take the odds
Someone has to stand up and be counted in the battle to preserve the culture from which we used to derive our values. Clearly, we cannot count on you
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What is also frightening is the rapid increase of Muslims in the West. While the Muslim world ,"Dar-a-Salam", is economically, militarily, scientifically, and artistically irrelevant, they are having babies and Europeans are not.
In 20 years the majority of Dutch children will be Muslim. Unless the EU makes Kosovo a new Muslim nation, Holland will become Europe's first muslim colony since their loss of Spain. Muslims are on the march and the West's ruling classes do not know what to do about it or don't care.
France, which broke into riots last year, is facing a slow-moving "intifada" that could explode at any moment. The Muslims are not integrating into a European culture that they hate and the governments and PC lefties just don't get it. I hope that the majority in Europe wakes up and shows the world that it has the will to survive.
Nick Griffin could not be more spot on with his comments about Islam. If I could take a bet out today I would put £1000 that aspects of Sharia law are introdcuced to areas of the UK within the next 20 years.
In 20 years the majority of Dutch children will be Muslim. Unless the EU makes Kosovo a new Muslim nation, Holland will become Europe's first muslim colony since their loss of Spain. Muslims are on the march and the West's ruling classes do not know what to do about it or don't care.
France, which broke into riots last year, is facing a slow-moving "intifada" that could explode at any moment. The Muslims are not integrating into a European culture that they hate and the governments and PC lefties just don't get it. I hope that the majority in Europe wakes up and shows the world that it has the will to survive.
Nick Griffin could not be more spot on with his comments about Islam. If I could take a bet out today I would put £1000 that aspects of Sharia law are introdcuced to areas of the UK within the next 20 years.
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Shame they diddn't hang the holocaust denying, lying, terroist supporting piece of ****.
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Another thing that makes me really sick about this is that we fund the BBC if we don't want to buy our TV licence we get put in prison.
In these times of Internet, Internet radio, Internet television, satellite television, Xbox games, karaoke and how could I forget free Internet pornography.
Why the hell would you want to watch the BBC for example last weekend crown green bowls ........ I'm paying for this utter dolphin excrement
Funny thing is I travel the world and wherever I go the BBC is everywhere they are charging other TV networks for their news and programmes. They're making tons of money abroad why the hell do we have to pay for them.
In these times of Internet, Internet radio, Internet television, satellite television, Xbox games, karaoke and how could I forget free Internet pornography.
Why the hell would you want to watch the BBC for example last weekend crown green bowls ........ I'm paying for this utter dolphin excrement
Funny thing is I travel the world and wherever I go the BBC is everywhere they are charging other TV networks for their news and programmes. They're making tons of money abroad why the hell do we have to pay for them.
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Originally Posted by gatty
what a great bloke! all the spine less mainstream mp s should be shi**ing themselves nick griffin is the future of all English men and woman. He has Bollo*ks and as far as i can see most working class i come across has total respect for him.
before you human rights pc puffs reply with some big words and bore the **** off me , have a read of there web site and tell me they are racist?
At last a judge got it right
before you human rights pc puffs reply with some big words and bore the **** off me , have a read of there web site and tell me they are racist?
At last a judge got it right
Did you know antidisestablishmentarianists were opposed to proposals to remove the Church's status as the state Church of England? Fascinating scintilla of knowledge this, don't you think?
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Originally Posted by alcazar
Just heard some top politician or summat on the radio explaining why we need to change the law to protect Muslims
The VERY NEXT item was the MI5 boss's view that Terrorism is rife in this country and the biggest threat to our survival.
Irony, no?
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The VERY NEXT item was the MI5 boss's view that Terrorism is rife in this country and the biggest threat to our survival.
Irony, no?
Alcazar
do you know that i had to giggle when all tv stations covered the bnp story and then the next story was the head of mi5 telling the nation what sort of threat the uk is under by the same people the bnp want shut of?
this is why the pc puffs do my bleedin head in . what world are they living in?
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
Read the website. They are racist.
Did you know antidisestablishmentarianists were opposed to proposals to remove the Church's status as the state Church of England? Fascinating scintilla of knowledge this, don't you think?
Did you know antidisestablishmentarianists were opposed to proposals to remove the Church's status as the state Church of England? Fascinating scintilla of knowledge this, don't you think?
to be honest with you i aint got a clue what your going on about! more to the point i am that igronant i dont care.
i dont regard making this place what it was 30+ years ago (a great place) being racist.
give them a chance, could this crap country slide down the pan anymore?
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I'm no lover of the BNP but IMHO he was 100% correct. It’s OK for Muslim clerics to spout their hatred on street corners and in mosques and nobody bats in eye lid as we can’t upset poor minorities no matter how violent and oppressive there beliefs may be. A white British guy says what most of the nation is thinking and the stupid lefty CPS nick him for it. I tell you the country has gone mad its ruled by bleeding hearts and its destroying our once great nation. What the lefties in government don’t realise is that there is a storm coming and once it happens it will be too late. Now I deplore the NF and everything they stand for, but to quote them "There's going to be a riot". I have no problem with anybody who come into the UK work hard, integrate and is an up standing person in the community no matter what colour they are. Unfortunately this is a failing of the UK over the last Forty years, hence why we have countries within a country.
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Originally Posted by markGT
I'm no lover of the BNP but IMHO he was 100% correct. It’s OK for Muslim clerics to spout their hatred on street corners and in mosques and nobody bats in eye lid as we can’t upset poor minorities no matter how violent and oppressive there beliefs may be. A white British guy says what most of the nation is thinking and the stupid lefty CPS nick him for it. I tell you the country has gone mad its ruled by bleeding hearts and its destroying our once great nation. What the lefties in government don’t realise is that there is a storm coming and once it happens it will be too late. Now I deplore the NF and everything they stand for, but to quote them "There's going to be a riot". I have no problem with anybody who come into the UK work hard, integrate and is an up standing person in the community no matter what colour they are. Unfortunately this is a failing of the UK over the last Forty years, hence why we have countries within a country.
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Yes, Blair has some time left yet, THEN it'l be the scruffy Scots pension thief
Hold onto your hats, (he'll probably tax those too!)
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Hold onto your hats, (he'll probably tax those too!)
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Yes some of what the BNP say is very true and we ALL should take heed. However when a man openly talks on television (Mark Collet) about Hitler being a great man akin to a big pebble on a beach surrounded by tiny ones. I would question his suitability as a political leader.
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Originally Posted by unclebuck
I only post it because 'most people' are afraid to make their thoughts on the subject known. They feel intimidated by the vindictive nature of the politically correct Thought ***** whom I assume you represent.
Someone has to stand up and be counted in the battle to preserve the culture from which we used to derive our values. Clearly, we cannot count on you
Someone has to stand up and be counted in the battle to preserve the culture from which we used to derive our values. Clearly, we cannot count on you
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vindictive politically correct Thought *****
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Originally Posted by Rannoch
A post which typifies a BNP supporter. We either agree with your narrow exclusive views or we are
No moderation, no debate, no dialogue. This reminds me of other political regimes - Hitler, Hussein, Ceausescu, Castro...need I go on?
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No moderation, no debate, no dialogue. This reminds me of other political regimes - Hitler, Hussein, Ceausescu, Castro...need I go on?
Rannoch
New Labour are of course the real enemies of freedom of thought, movement and identity. Blair is also directly responible for hundreds of thousands of innocent muslim deaths in the middle east resulting in you and I becoming prime targets for the terrosist hoardes that The State constantly remind us now exist in the UK.
Compared to them like likes of Nick Giffin and the BNP are positively saintly.
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Originally Posted by Einstein RA
Yes some of what the BNP say is very true and we ALL should take heed. However when a man openly talks on television (Mark Collet) about Hitler being a great man akin to a big pebble on a beach surrounded by tiny ones. I would question his suitability as a political leader.
you might have to say when he said that , as thats new to me. not calling you a liar .
ok so he might had said this at some point. BUT do you realy think all the mainstream partys are sqeaky clean? i think not . they have whips , people round them making sure nothing slips.
there just scared of the bnp because they say it HOW IT IS . give it a few more years and tho power will shift towards the far right and were not talking about new tories (puffs) when even the pc prats start loosing loved ones because the immogrant has there hospital bed or you cant get legal aid as all the funds have dried up they might start thinking diffrently
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