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Old 20 October 2006, 02:20 PM
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Does anyone have the clip of when Jeremy Clarkson gets a Spitfire put on his lawn? I remeber his wife going mental but can't find it anywhere!!!!

Please help!!!
Old 20 October 2006, 02:27 PM
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It was a Lightening if memory serves, think it was in one of his videos rather than on TV
Old 20 October 2006, 02:32 PM
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Yes it was a Lightning, Trouble with aircraft standing outside is that they corrrode badly. The state of Vulcan 670 which was used to achieve the blocking of the runway in the Falklands is rapidly going downhill at its spot on Waddington's airfield.

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Old 20 October 2006, 02:50 PM
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Ditto the BA Concordes.
Old 20 October 2006, 03:18 PM
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Airliners.net Photos: UK - Air Force English Electric Lightning F.1A

thats the lightning..
Old 21 October 2006, 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by 2000 sport
I'm sure I saw one of those on the Back of a truck going into the docks the other day
Old 21 October 2006, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by 2000 sport

That's an early one by the looks of it. The fuel tanks look just about big enough to get it to the end of the runway Later versions had tanks that ran the length of the fuselage. With guns in them
Old 21 October 2006, 11:40 AM
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That was a tank which was detachable from the fuselage. Can't remember whether that included a gunpack like the Canberra B(I)8.

The internal tanks certainly did not last for long alright, not on the one I flew anyway!

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Old 21 October 2006, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Leslie
That was a tank which was detachable from the fuselage. Can't remember whether that included a gunpack like the Canberra B(I)8.

The internal tanks certainly did not last for long alright, not on the one I flew anyway!

Les

The F6's underbelly tank definitely had a gun pack in it, it also made the plane look like it was heavily pregnant
Old 21 October 2006, 02:39 PM
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Thought it was a Mig 21?
Old 21 October 2006, 04:59 PM
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What, with the RAF roundal on it?

Close, but no cigar.
Old 21 October 2006, 05:25 PM
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does it still have the record for vertical climb or has this gone to another aircraft ??
Old 21 October 2006, 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Franx2
I'm sure I saw one of those on the Back of a truck going into the docks the other day
It's a shame if it was, because it's quite okay to fly a four ship in South Africa now, but the nice people at the Belgrano seem to think it's not safe to allow them to fly here

Aviation videos by groundfish

It's clear to see from the video why it would be unsafe to allow them to fly in the UK, although if somebody could actually point out the reason, I'd appreciate it.

Same goes for the Shackleton.
Old 22 October 2006, 01:30 AM
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Originally Posted by survey steve
does it still have the record for vertical climb or has this gone to another aircraft ??
I'm not sure? I personally think it does, The only aircraft that could have bettered it to my mind would be some variation of F15
Old 22 October 2006, 11:42 AM
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The one I flew out of Singapore went vertical most of the way up with several aileron rolls thrown in!

That was an experience. I have seen an F15 do a similar climb almost out of sight at the airbase just north of Las Vegas.

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Old 22 October 2006, 01:17 PM
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That wouldn't be "THE" airbase just north of Las Vegas would it - about 70 miles north and a bit east-ish??
Old 22 October 2006, 06:37 PM
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The F15 "Streak Eagle" got the record, but it was specially stripped out and polished...

There were unofficial claims that the F16 was actually quicker from brakes off to 60,000' - I know for sure that it got there quicker than an Apollo Saturn V!

I've done a very quick climbout from Nellis in the back of an F15B while I was on exchange over there. Just about the only thing that stovies got to do that we didn't But they couldn't stop. Or fly backwards...

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Old 24 October 2006, 12:38 PM
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It was Nellis AFB Nick100, where the Red Flag exercises are held. About 10 miles north of Las Vegas. I spent 6 weeks there twice with the Vulcans on Red Flag. We had a great time too.

Wish I had got a trip in an F15, but we could out turn them at 40,000 feet! They could not believe it! I did get a trip with a mad **** chopper pilot once out towards Area 15 and back. He flew all the way at very low level along a dried up river and we all thought the blades were going to come off by the flapping noises going on. Can't believe you would do things like that Simon, ho ho

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Originally Posted by Sbradley
The F15 "Streak Eagle" got the record, but it was specially stripped out and polished...

There were unofficial claims that the F16 was actually quicker from brakes off to 60,000' - I know for sure that it got there quicker than an Apollo Saturn V!

I've done a very quick climbout from Nellis in the back of an F15B while I was on exchange over there. Just about the only thing that stovies got to do that we didn't But they couldn't stop. Or fly backwards...

SB
Typical yanks then, even with their budgets they find they can't do it fairly, so they modify the rules

I can't see that an F16 would be able to manage it though? I know them General Dynamics engines are good, but one on it's own ain't that good.

What's 'B then Simon? I though the 'Es were the first two seater F15s
Old 30 October 2006, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by CrisPDuk
What's 'B then Simon? I though the 'Es were the first two seater F15s
The B was the two seater trainer version of the A.
The E is the two seater Strike Eagle.
Old 30 October 2006, 12:15 PM
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I had a good look at an Eagle with the engines out at Nellis. I was really impressed with the quality of the engineering.

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Old 30 October 2006, 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by ^Qwerty^
It's clear to see from the video why it would be unsafe to allow them to fly in the UK, although if somebody could actually point out the reason, I'd appreciate it.

My understanding is that it is illegal to fly any civilian privately-owned jet which is fitted with an afterburner. Even de-activation won't help I believe.


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Old 30 October 2006, 05:04 PM
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Delta Jets @ Kemble are looking at running a Jaguar, and a posting on, I think pprune, suggested that things were looking promising, so maybe the CAA are having a change of heart.

I agree that an aeroplane that can touch 1500mph should have a limited number of people allowed to fly them on g-reg, say 3000hrs as a fast jet jockey, but just saying no is a grand shame.
Old 30 October 2006, 05:24 PM
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Great airplane.It is my favourite memory of air displays in the mid 60's.I lived near Biggin Hill and my mates used to jump over the fence to get into the shows without paying .
The Lightning would dive down over the display field and break the sound barrier just before pulling out of the dive.
The noise was like a cannon going off next to your ear.Scared loads of spectators.I loved it.Shame they can't do that stuff anymore.

Second best was the Vulcans taking off and going into a vertical climb.
Old 30 October 2006, 05:38 PM
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Was at Biggin Hill when the Canadian Airforce team (The Red Indians?)came over with Starfighters

Three of them came in from behind the crowd line, transonic, and broke vertical so everyone got a blast of hot, smokey air as they went and burned holes in the clouds...

Nearly crapped myself as we were all watching the fourth one which was just pissing around a long way in front of us being a distraction

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Originally Posted by _Meridian_
My understanding is that it is illegal to fly any civilian privately-owned jet which is fitted with an afterburner. Even de-activation won't help I believe.
You sure? I thought there were several Hawker Hunters in private ownership and flying in the UK. Although I remember being at Duxford when they announced over the Tannoy that they weren't allowed to fly their Phantom due to some sort of arms proliferation treaty, because it was still in active service with some air forces.
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AFAIK the Hunter doesn't have an afterburner.


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Absolutely right - no burner, reheat or whatever else you want to call it on a Hunter.

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Old 30 October 2006, 10:16 PM
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However, I think the video in question was Lightnings.

2 burners there which explains the comment I guess.

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Originally Posted by Sbradley
However, I think the video in question was Lightnings.

2 burners there which explains the comment I guess.

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Privately owned Lightnings are definitely not permitted to fly in
UK airspace Which is why I'm going all the way to Cape Town for a go in one next year


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