SPECS Loophole?
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17 October 2006, 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Nat21
Although most SPECS are on sections of M-way with roadworks/40mph limits where they are a very good idea.
I agree it may be useful when there's a workforce to protect, but for what seems like 99% of the time it's a joke having a 40mph limit.
17 October 2006, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Nat21
Although most SPECS are on sections of M-way with roadworks/40mph limits where they are a very good idea.
17 October 2006, 09:24 AM
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Does any of the GPS detectors have the pairings listed so people know when to change lane? Might minimise the havoc that will soon happen. Are they a fixed distance (roughly ) apart?
2 articles in the Mail that are useful in less than a week? Stunned.
2 articles in the Mail that are useful in less than a week? Stunned.
17 October 2006, 09:38 AM
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I've always wondered this as the ones in Northampton look like they're aimed at the 'fast' lane.
Obviously never dared to check it though!
Obviously never dared to check it though!
17 October 2006, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Nat21
Although most SPECS are on sections of M-way with roadworks/40mph limits where they are a very good idea.
In fact a 40 mph limit at night is extrememly dangerous as attention spans rapidly go downhill through sheer boredom at travelling at 40 mph when there's no other traffic about. Try commuting home at 4am and giving a thumbs up to speed cameras
17 October 2006, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Nat21
Although most SPECS are on sections of M-way with roadworks/40mph limits where they are a very good idea.
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17 October 2006, 11:44 AM
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Be very careful as SPECS are being advanced. It is correct that they can only spot in one lane but they can also be set to spot in a different lane. They are fixed but they could be set to a middle entry and a fast lane exit.
Just don't try a dare them....
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Just don't try a dare them....
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17 October 2006, 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Scooby Roo
Be very careful as SPECS are being advanced. It is correct that they can only spot in one lane but they can also be set to spot in a different lane. They are fixed but they could be set to a middle entry and a fast lane exit.
Just don't try a dare them....
Roo
Just don't try a dare them....
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But, under Home Office rules governing the camera equipment, prosecutions are only valid if a driver is filmed in the same lane at the start and finish of each section by a linked pair of cameras.
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But under Home Office 'type approval' rules, each individual set cannot be linked to any of the others. So cars are timed only between sets of number plate readers 'paired' for the same lane.
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But under Home Office 'type approval' rules, each individual set cannot be linked to any of the others. So cars are timed only between sets of number plate readers 'paired' for the same lane.
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17 October 2006, 01:32 PM
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Would it work over multiple lanes and over mulitple cameras?
Heres my theory,
You go under the first camera in lane one
You change to lane two
You go under the first camera in lane two
You change to lane three
You go under the first camera in lane three
You change back to lane one.
would you not be caught by the camera in lane one which registered your details when you passed under it?
Or is it that cameras are "paired" so they have the first and the second in lane one, then they go onto a new pair and you can only get caught if a pair catch you, not a camera 5 miles down the road, but in the same lane.
Anyone shead any light?
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Heres my theory,
You go under the first camera in lane one
You change to lane two
You go under the first camera in lane two
You change to lane three
You go under the first camera in lane three
You change back to lane one.
would you not be caught by the camera in lane one which registered your details when you passed under it?
Or is it that cameras are "paired" so they have the first and the second in lane one, then they go onto a new pair and you can only get caught if a pair catch you, not a camera 5 miles down the road, but in the same lane.
Anyone shead any light?
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17 October 2006, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by astraboy
Would it work over multiple lanes and over mulitple cameras?
Or is it that cameras are "paired"
Or is it that cameras are "paired"
17 October 2006, 04:57 PM
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Having known people who have been hit by cars or debris thrown up by cars while they were working on Motorway works and been seriously injured I think anything that makes traffic slow down is a great idea. Ok, workers are not always there but a lot of the time they are and having traffic flying by at high speed is extremely dangerous to them. Bear in mind that the lanes are narrow too compared to normal M-way lanes.
In my opinion exceeding the speed limit in road works is as bad as doing so in a village/built up area with a 30 limit.
In my opinion exceeding the speed limit in road works is as bad as doing so in a village/built up area with a 30 limit.
17 October 2006, 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by carl
Jeez, this is the second time I've had to post this in two days. Why not read the article before asking questions? OllyK has quoted the relevant part, both cameras must film you in the same lane, and prosecutions must be via a linked pair of cameras. There can only be two cameras in a linked pair, so the fact that you're subsequently spotted in the same lane by a third or subsequent camera is irrelevant.
Here's a present for your trouble.
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18 October 2006, 09:21 AM
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i read this some time ago, if one of the cameras misses your plate it wont activate either, slipping in behind a big truck usually does it, more from a bucking the sytem point of veiw really, my own little rebelion, its not worth speeding in the road works anyway
18 October 2006, 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Nat21
Having known people who have been hit by cars or debris thrown up by cars while they were working on Motorway works and been seriously injured I think anything that makes traffic slow down is a great idea. Ok, workers are not always there but a lot of the time they are and having traffic flying by at high speed is extremely dangerous to them. Bear in mind that the lanes are narrow too compared to normal M-way lanes.
In my opinion exceeding the speed limit in road works is as bad as doing so in a village/built up area with a 30 limit.
In my opinion exceeding the speed limit in road works is as bad as doing so in a village/built up area with a 30 limit.
18 October 2006, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by OllyK
If people were actually working on the roadworks I'd agree, but when you get a 10 mile stretch on the M1 with 1 guy leaning on a shovel 4 miles in to it and nothing else, it does pi$$ you off.
If anyone came on here and said "I drive through villages, past schools, through densely populated housing estates at 60mph but it's ok because it's not school home time or it's the middle of the night" then they would get massively abused by the Snet massive.
18 October 2006, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Nat21
Yes it can be annoyign but it's the same thing as saying "There's not always kids in front of schools" or "There's not always people around the village green/village high street/shopping centre" etc...
If anyone came on here and said "I drive through villages, past schools, through densely populated housing estates at 60mph but it's ok because it's not school home time or it's the middle of the night" then they would get massively abused by the Snet massive.
If anyone came on here and said "I drive through villages, past schools, through densely populated housing estates at 60mph but it's ok because it's not school home time or it's the middle of the night" then they would get massively abused by the Snet massive.