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Old 27 September 2006, 06:11 PM
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Exclamation Now THATS driving.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poSHGKTWAhQ
Old 27 September 2006, 06:21 PM
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There's more racing and excitement in that 1:53 clip than in the whole of last year and this year's F1 season combined, IMO.
Old 27 September 2006, 06:23 PM
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Old 27 September 2006, 06:31 PM
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Why has F1 managed to survive so long? The worlds most boring form of motor sport. Many years ago J.Clarkson said,when asked about all the pit stops, 'it's like deciding the outcome of a football match on who can eat their oranges the fastest at half-time'.
I am a complete car nut but I think the most exciting,skillful & commited people are now in MotoGP.
They also have the most gifted individule in any form of motor sport,Valentinio Rossi.
Fantastic action all the way!
Any one else agree?
Old 27 September 2006, 07:02 PM
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They need to get rid of the aerodynamic aids, give them big skinny tyres, no electronics and as much horsepower as they want, oh and all drivers must have impressive facial hair like massive sideburns or a handlebar tache, for which they get points.

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Old 27 September 2006, 07:27 PM
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Reminds me of Mansell & Senna, the only two driver who wernt afraid to mix it up!! Mansell & Sennas scrap round monaco, complete with some superb overtaking maneuvers. now that was racing,

not the one make parade we have now


Mart
Old 27 September 2006, 07:33 PM
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Yes F1 is pretty boring now, I really can't understand why they don't fix it.

MotoGP is good, and I've also enjoyed watching this year's BTCC
Old 27 September 2006, 11:13 PM
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Nice clip- the good old days
Moto GP is proper racing though- highly enternaining this year and down to the wire- the yamaha is clearly not the fastest bike out there.
BTCC has entertained me too though it is in danger of turning into stock car racing anytime soon. Non contact my ****
Old 27 September 2006, 11:13 PM
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I used to be a big fan of F1 but never bother to tune in now. Moto GP, now that's a different ball-game entirely
Old 27 September 2006, 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by mart360
Reminds me of Mansell & Senna, the only two driver who wernt afraid to mix it up!! Mansell & Sennas scrap round monaco, complete with some superb overtaking maneuvers. now that was racing,

not the one make parade we have now


Mart
i still remember that race above all others, i remember getting wrong off my dad for screaming at the TV
Old 28 September 2006, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by legb4rsk
I am a complete car nut but I think the most exciting,skillful & commited people are now in MotoGP.
What about the WRC? Surely the most talented individuals on the Planet. Not many people can go flat out at over 100mph on a dirt track with killer trees just yard away.

The problem with F1 is the rules regarding the Aero they can run on the car. Currently the car behind gets in the dirty air of the car in front, and then lose grip. Change the rules regarding Aero, and bring back slick tyres, and we'll see overtaking again.

Sadly they won't though. They changed the rules, as they stated the cars were cornering too fast, thus endangering lives
They've proposed new Aero packages to the rear wings to enable the car behind to get better grip, but this has been put back for another few years, sadly.
Old 28 September 2006, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr.No
There's more racing and excitement in that 1:53 clip than in the whole of last year and this year's F1 season combined, IMO.
Try more exciting than the last 10 years combined. I only bother to watch the first corner of F1, the rest is boring.
Old 28 September 2006, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by mart360
Reminds me of Mansell & Senna, the only two driver who wernt afraid to mix it up!! Mansell & Sennas scrap round monaco, complete with some superb overtaking maneuvers. now that was racing,

not the one make parade we have now


Mart
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yD_65_DZYs



Although this qualifying lap is something else too...... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3SWL...elated&search=

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Old 28 September 2006, 01:48 PM
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Quote 'What about the WRC? Surely the most talented individuals on the Planet. Not many people can go flat out at over 100mph on a dirt track with killer trees just yard away.'

Stilove: I agree with you about WRC ,but I was thinking of other track related motor sports in relation to F1 .i.e overtaking ,action & excitement troughout the race.MotoGP
has the best overall value for me & I just love the camera angles taken from on the bikes.
Old 28 September 2006, 01:53 PM
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yeah moto gp fottage is awesome to watch.

f1 is just to many rules and regs, gone are the days of them being test beds for new tech, such as abs, active suspension, 6 wheels (front 4 small ones steering ).
just same old same old, and getting more and more strict.

used to love watching whoel races, tend to go and watch other things now when main rac is underway.


BTCC is pretty good fun to watch, they actually nock each other off the track lol
Old 28 September 2006, 02:01 PM
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the vid shows what f1 used to be like and should be like
Old 28 September 2006, 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by legb4rsk
Quote 'What about the WRC? Surely the most talented individuals on the Planet. Not many people can go flat out at over 100mph on a dirt track with killer trees just yard away.'

Stilove: I agree with you about WRC ,but I was thinking of other track related motor sports in relation to F1 .i.e overtaking ,action & excitement troughout the race.MotoGP
has the best overall value for me & I just love the camera angles taken from on the bikes.
Ok fair point ..................... But. If it's REAL driving you want to see :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iuv5Qjb3A4

Makes me smile every time.

Gigi Galli
Old 28 September 2006, 02:22 PM
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Old 28 September 2006, 02:30 PM
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to be fair any and all wrc drivers could do that, everyone of them are very very good drivers the differences between the top and bottom man is very small even if the times re different by alot, same with all forms of motorsport including f1 and moto gp.

the ability of the driver to push that extra inch makes all the difference
Old 28 September 2006, 02:35 PM
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One thing I notice from the clip is how much room they give each other to race. No blocking, forcing each other off the roads, closing the door. Cannot see that happening in current F1.

For great racing see BTCC around 93/94 - but then I am biased

Or some of the Sierra Cosworth RS500 BTCC races from around 1990, Rouse, Soper, Gravett, Harvey - too much power and too little grip - fantastic.
Old 28 September 2006, 02:40 PM
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Yep F1 is sooo boring, mind you check out ESPN Classic on Sky they have loads of old sporting stuff on there, footie and tennis from the 70s and 80s and they had a 1973 grand prix on the other day with hunt, stewart et all and that was pretty good with the late raymond baxter doing the commentary.

Happy days!
Old 28 September 2006, 02:41 PM
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god yes st, I keep looking for the early soper/rouse btcc stuff on dvd but cant find it, does it exist even?
Old 28 September 2006, 03:48 PM
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Oh yes - if you know who to ask
Old 28 September 2006, 03:55 PM
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Nice clip.

I can just imagine how Murray Walker would have been commentating to something like that. He would have exploded!
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ok supert now I'm *asking*

where from?
Old 28 September 2006, 06:20 PM
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Bring back the good old days of motorsport:

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?...7768&q=audi+s1

Can't beat a bit of group b
Old 28 September 2006, 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by FlightMan
Thats what the F1 of today is missing .........BRING IT BACK
Old 28 September 2006, 09:36 PM
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My fave F1 Moment
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82xOYvnyNQk

A bit of Mr Brock at his best
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOTSFrlVG4s

lastly a bit of Mr Rally, the way he purposely points the car towards the edge of the mountain, ballsy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9q845WtC5I
Old 28 September 2006, 10:05 PM
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Ari Vatanen,Pikes Peak ,it really doesn't get any better than that,the real deal and no mistake.
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