This is why things are worse than 20 years ago, racism madness
08 September 2006, 03:31 AM
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This is why things are worse than 20 years ago, racism madness
From the "you can't make it up archives", man refused council job because he is white. Council had Stalinist target.
Read and weep
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...3/nwhite13.xml
Read and weep
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...3/nwhite13.xml
08 September 2006, 07:09 AM
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A Brighton and Hove council spokesman said the job was a traineeship offered under what employers call "positive action", where there are a shortage of ethnic minority workers.
No it's called "Positive Discrimination".
No it's called "Positive Discrimination".
08 September 2006, 07:10 AM
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It should always be the best man (or woman) for the job, irrespective of colour or religion, gender etc. No discrimination of any sort. It ought to be illegal.
08 September 2006, 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by MattW
A Brighton and Hove council spokesman said the job was a traineeship offered under what employers call "positive action", where there are a shortage of ethnic minority workers.
No it's called "Positive Discrimination".
No it's called "Positive Discrimination".
08 September 2006, 10:31 AM
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There was another story the other day, regarding a School that refused to let a 11 year old Schoolgirl use the free School bus service. Why? Because she wasn't Baptised. WTF?
Places on the bus was for children of `Faith`. She now has to travel 8 miles, on 2 buses to and from School.
Try telling a Muslim they couldn't use the free bus service because of Relegion, and there would be protests, riot's etc.
This country is getting madder by the day
Places on the bus was for children of `Faith`. She now has to travel 8 miles, on 2 buses to and from School.
Try telling a Muslim they couldn't use the free bus service because of Relegion, and there would be protests, riot's etc.
This country is getting madder by the day
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08 September 2006, 10:46 AM
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No wonder Blair has announced his retirement next year,his job of taking this country to the dogs is almost done
08 September 2006, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by kingofturds
No wonder Blair has announced his retirement next year,his job of taking this country to the dogs is almost done
Never voted Tory in my life, but it looks like I soon will be.
08 September 2006, 01:03 PM
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And Gordon (I want to heal the world with British tax payers money) Brown will finish us off
Never voted Tory in my life, but it looks like I soon will be.
Never voted Tory in my life, but it looks like I soon will be.
It's BNP all the way for me from now on!
08 September 2006, 01:09 PM
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Interesting article here from the Telgraph - how "Blair will have left an Enron style disaster by the time he leaves office"
Originally Posted by Telegraph
Interest rates are going up, unemployment is going up, so too are taxes and domestic fuel bills. Little wonder that Britain's feel-good factor is down in the basement.
Nationwide's consumer confidence index fell to its lowest-ever level in August, a drop of 17pc from where it was only 12 months ago. A quick recovery looks unlikely.
The building society's survey of 1,000 customers reveals that one third of us believe that the economy will deteriorate even further over the next six months.
It's not just that summer is over – the long haul to Christmas starts here, and we've all got back-to-work blues.
The principal causes of people's gloom are very real. Worries about jobs, rising mortgage payments, fears over mounting violence in the Middle East and domestic terror plots are undermining our sense of well-being.
A BBC poll found that nearly half of us think this country is a worse place to live than it was 20 years ago. Issues such as crime, immigration, overcrowding and the high cost of living are a burden on our collective spirit.
With its dodgy accounting and false promises, the entire New Labour Project looks increasingly like a political version of Enron: temporary prosperity, built on an illusion.
Enron fell apart when its true numbers emerged from a miasma of mystery. As the roof caved in, its directors, desperate to avoid blame, turned on each other viciously. Labour is already suffering the same fate.
Gordon Brown's appetite for self-approbation – talking up his own talents – worked for a while. But the bubble has popped; he's been well and truly rumbled.
For instance, the unemployment numbers do add up, but not as he would wish. The total of those claiming various out-of-work benefits has risen to more than five million, one sixth of Britain's working-age population.
"Hello, hello, Mission Control calling Flash Gordon." To paraphrase Lyndon Johnson, your economic speeches now have the same effect as you wetting your pants. They may seem hot to you, but they don't to anyone else.
Under Labour, Britain's growth rates have been shored up, not by genuine outperformance, but by a combination of government profligacy, covert welfare dependency and reckless consumer borrowing.
The extent to which Brown has fixed his figures with the glue of other people's misery was reinforced this week, when Debt Free Direct, the company which helps over-stretched borrowers, said that its profits would exceed City forecasts of £10m by at least 10pc.
Debt Free Direct specialises in individual voluntary arrangements (IVAs), which allow hopelessly indebted consumers to strike a deal with lenders to repay only a percentage of what is owed.
Banks and credit card issuers see many of their customers drowning and take the view that getting back something is better than nothing.
Debt Free Direct processed more than 1,500 IVAs in the quarter May to July – an increase of nearly 200pc on the same period last year. Shares in the company have all but tripled in the past 12 months to about 500p.
Not only has Brown not eliminated boom and bust, he's engineered conditions where they exist side by side.
When trading Enron shares, the trick was to sell at the right time. As mug punters were being herded in, those in the know – the smartest men in the room – were piling out.
Street-wise dealers gambled on put options, which enabled them to force less savvy investors to buy their Enron shares at high prices – well after the rot had set in.
This, in effect, is what Tony Blair is doing to Brown. The longer that Blair hangs on, the worse the British economy becomes and the lower Labour's notional share price falls.
When Blair finally exercises his put option, obliging Brown to assume full control of the party and the country, the glory days will be long gone. From boom to bust.
Blair will have enjoyed being chief executive in the best of times. Moreover, he will walk away, knowing that Brown's destiny is to be the discredited finance director who, as the new boss, must face the worst of times.
When Blair joins Bill Clinton, another flim-flam man, on the mega-buck speaking circuit, his legacy will, in many ways, be so much uglier than that left behind by Ken Lay and his team of Enron shysters.
British troops are on a deadly goose-chase in Iraq and Afghanistan, but at home our streets are immeasurably less safe than before Blair arrived.
Business is bound and gagged by red tape, increasingly unable to compete with international rivals.
The health service is awash with taxpayers' cash, yet hospitals are being closed and nurses sacked.
Money is wasted on an unimaginable scale, including computer systems that do not work, and the hiring of consultants to sort out the mess.
Civil servants' integrity is disgracefully compromised, as the machinery of administration is bullied into working for Labour's selfish interests.
School examination standards are debauched and the quest for excellence at our elite universities is wrecked by demands for "greater diversity", aka social engineering.
Immigration is out of control, too. The only number we can be sure of is that this country's jails are holding 11,000 foreign nationals – one seventh of the total prison population.
The honours system is dragged into the sewer by a process of buying and selling, haggling and short-changing, which even a street trader in Tripoli might find offensive.
Never mind. At $100,000 a pop for after-dinner recollections of his finest hours, Blair will be too busy accumulating riches to reflect on his cost to the rest of us.
Gordon Brown, meanwhile, will inherit the electoral equivalent of Enron share certificates, out-smarted by a more venal, less principled operator. Brown may be clever, but Blair would have made a terrific options trader.
Nationwide's consumer confidence index fell to its lowest-ever level in August, a drop of 17pc from where it was only 12 months ago. A quick recovery looks unlikely.
The building society's survey of 1,000 customers reveals that one third of us believe that the economy will deteriorate even further over the next six months.
It's not just that summer is over – the long haul to Christmas starts here, and we've all got back-to-work blues.
The principal causes of people's gloom are very real. Worries about jobs, rising mortgage payments, fears over mounting violence in the Middle East and domestic terror plots are undermining our sense of well-being.
A BBC poll found that nearly half of us think this country is a worse place to live than it was 20 years ago. Issues such as crime, immigration, overcrowding and the high cost of living are a burden on our collective spirit.
With its dodgy accounting and false promises, the entire New Labour Project looks increasingly like a political version of Enron: temporary prosperity, built on an illusion.
Enron fell apart when its true numbers emerged from a miasma of mystery. As the roof caved in, its directors, desperate to avoid blame, turned on each other viciously. Labour is already suffering the same fate.
Gordon Brown's appetite for self-approbation – talking up his own talents – worked for a while. But the bubble has popped; he's been well and truly rumbled.
For instance, the unemployment numbers do add up, but not as he would wish. The total of those claiming various out-of-work benefits has risen to more than five million, one sixth of Britain's working-age population.
"Hello, hello, Mission Control calling Flash Gordon." To paraphrase Lyndon Johnson, your economic speeches now have the same effect as you wetting your pants. They may seem hot to you, but they don't to anyone else.
Under Labour, Britain's growth rates have been shored up, not by genuine outperformance, but by a combination of government profligacy, covert welfare dependency and reckless consumer borrowing.
The extent to which Brown has fixed his figures with the glue of other people's misery was reinforced this week, when Debt Free Direct, the company which helps over-stretched borrowers, said that its profits would exceed City forecasts of £10m by at least 10pc.
Debt Free Direct specialises in individual voluntary arrangements (IVAs), which allow hopelessly indebted consumers to strike a deal with lenders to repay only a percentage of what is owed.
Banks and credit card issuers see many of their customers drowning and take the view that getting back something is better than nothing.
Debt Free Direct processed more than 1,500 IVAs in the quarter May to July – an increase of nearly 200pc on the same period last year. Shares in the company have all but tripled in the past 12 months to about 500p.
Not only has Brown not eliminated boom and bust, he's engineered conditions where they exist side by side.
When trading Enron shares, the trick was to sell at the right time. As mug punters were being herded in, those in the know – the smartest men in the room – were piling out.
Street-wise dealers gambled on put options, which enabled them to force less savvy investors to buy their Enron shares at high prices – well after the rot had set in.
This, in effect, is what Tony Blair is doing to Brown. The longer that Blair hangs on, the worse the British economy becomes and the lower Labour's notional share price falls.
When Blair finally exercises his put option, obliging Brown to assume full control of the party and the country, the glory days will be long gone. From boom to bust.
Blair will have enjoyed being chief executive in the best of times. Moreover, he will walk away, knowing that Brown's destiny is to be the discredited finance director who, as the new boss, must face the worst of times.
When Blair joins Bill Clinton, another flim-flam man, on the mega-buck speaking circuit, his legacy will, in many ways, be so much uglier than that left behind by Ken Lay and his team of Enron shysters.
British troops are on a deadly goose-chase in Iraq and Afghanistan, but at home our streets are immeasurably less safe than before Blair arrived.
Business is bound and gagged by red tape, increasingly unable to compete with international rivals.
The health service is awash with taxpayers' cash, yet hospitals are being closed and nurses sacked.
Money is wasted on an unimaginable scale, including computer systems that do not work, and the hiring of consultants to sort out the mess.
Civil servants' integrity is disgracefully compromised, as the machinery of administration is bullied into working for Labour's selfish interests.
School examination standards are debauched and the quest for excellence at our elite universities is wrecked by demands for "greater diversity", aka social engineering.
Immigration is out of control, too. The only number we can be sure of is that this country's jails are holding 11,000 foreign nationals – one seventh of the total prison population.
The honours system is dragged into the sewer by a process of buying and selling, haggling and short-changing, which even a street trader in Tripoli might find offensive.
Never mind. At $100,000 a pop for after-dinner recollections of his finest hours, Blair will be too busy accumulating riches to reflect on his cost to the rest of us.
Gordon Brown, meanwhile, will inherit the electoral equivalent of Enron share certificates, out-smarted by a more venal, less principled operator. Brown may be clever, but Blair would have made a terrific options trader.
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08 September 2006, 01:24 PM
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I wonder how many of the Tory boys above would really turn back the clock 20 years. I'd give them a week of living 20 years ago and they'd soon change their tune.
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Originally Posted by scoobynutta555
I wonder how many of the Tory boys above would really turn back the clock 20 years. I'd give them a week of living 20 years ago and they'd soon change their tune.
Surely not - at least not this bad. Great quote from the Telegraph article;
"the entire New Labour Project looks increasingly like a political version of Enron: temporary prosperity, built on an illusion"
08 September 2006, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Petem95
But had the Tories been in power for the last 9 years in place of Labour, do you think we would be in the mess we are in now?
People who quote newspapers should be aware that they carry very biased leanings toward one party or another, therefore, I treat any doom mongering by any newspaper with caution.
08 September 2006, 01:58 PM
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Who knows what mess we would be in. But, I'd imagine a Major government for another decade would ensure we would be in a proper ******* nightmare.
08 September 2006, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by scoobynutta555
I wonder how many of the Tory boys above would really turn back the clock 20 years. I'd give them a week of living 20 years ago and they'd soon change their tune.
What about 30 odd years ago, under that labour government?
1973 -Three day week? 1978 'The winter of discontent'?
Do you think Mrs Thatcher could turn the country round over night?! It took her years to put right everything that labour had manged to **** up in the 60's & 70's
I'm not saying she got it all right - but she took no **** off anyone.
It's not the those who vote Conservative that need the reality check!
I can only assume those who vote labour (and continue to do so) don't have any issues paying for the chavs on sit on their ***** - because that is exactly what you're doing!
09 September 2006, 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Akuma
What about 30 odd years ago, under that labour government?
1973 -Three day week? 1978 'The winter of discontent'?
1973 -Three day week? 1978 'The winter of discontent'?
got a feeling that the 3 day week was a Ted Heath invention, as well as being good with an organ and sailing boat, he was also Tory Prime Minister.
Having said that, it was found that during the 3 day week overall UK production rose by 10% over the normal working week
09 September 2006, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Akuma
What about 30 odd years ago, under that labour government?
, a full SEVEN years of Thatcher being in office.Suppose a Labour government was to blame for the recession in the early 90's as well was it? ERM fiasco, poll tax, mass unemployment and think you wait a long time in the NHS system now? Etc etc.
And
Originally Posted by Akuma
I can only assume those who vote labour (and continue to do so) don't have any issues paying for the chavs on sit on their ***** - because that is exactly what you're doing!
You have to look to Clinton in the states for benefit reform. Even now neither party here are willing to take the bull by the horns.
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Scoobynutta,
I imagine you will be attending Billy Boy's special farewell do with the rest of the NL activists. Won't any one else there of course-maybe PSL though I suppose.
Les
I imagine you will be attending Billy Boy's special farewell do with the rest of the NL activists. Won't any one else there of course-maybe PSL though I suppose.
Les
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Leslie, the trouble with you people is that you're never happy. If you're pin up Thatcher was in office you'd still be maoning your b0llocks off.
There's a clique of you on here that base your little lives around moaning and complaining about everything, it's really quite boring.
When have I ever said I have voted for Blair, the fact is I have never voted for Labour in a general election.
Get over it.
There's a clique of you on here that base your little lives around moaning and complaining about everything, it's really quite boring.
When have I ever said I have voted for Blair, the fact is I have never voted for Labour in a general election.
Get over it.
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"For instance, the unemployment numbers do add up, but not as he would wish. The total of those claiming various out-of-work benefits has risen to more than five million, one sixth of Britain's working-age population."
If that is a true figure it is quite shocking! It really explodes the New Labour myth about unemployment.
If that is a true figure it is quite shocking! It really explodes the New Labour myth about unemployment.
11 September 2006, 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Einstein RA
Enoch Powell.
