Wurzel

iTrader: (1)

Channel 4 now, one of the Spitfire hunters drives a WRX or STi 8, reg number X11 PRA.

Any one on here a Spitfire hunter and been digging in northern France for Douglas Baders downed Spitfire?

Mac7611

I just posted a thread in the was it you section about the same car lol

James

N*UFO

First class tv! We WON............ Please do not get me started!

Wurzel

iTrader: (1)

LOL never thought of putting it in there

andythejock01wrx

Great that we won, but it's looks like old Dougie fibbed about not getting shot down (He said he just happened to bump into a Messerschmitt).

Still, what a great man ! (If he wasn't around we might be saying
"Ja sicher, Scoobynet ist absolute toll !!).

andythejock01wrx

OK, he was covering for his mate who shot him down by accident -
Spitfire turns, sees another plane at his side, opens up, blowing the plane's tail off, then "gasp", he realises he's shot down his mate Bader !!

Happily Bader bailed out, but one of his false legs fell off as he parachuted down (what a guy !!)

Mark A

iTrader: (1)

What a great job, "Spitfirehunter". Makes mine look dull.

RIP Martin Sargeant Rouen 2001

shooter007

am i the only one who disliked douglas bader didnt he team up with lee malory to push is big wing ideas on hugh dowding (destroy them on the way home after they had done the damage ) and wouldnt help 11 group (they were 12 group i think eg next door )

mart360

I think he had ***** of steel,

i read his autobiography when i was younger, makes some of the youth of today look like wimps in comparison


Mart

scoobynutta555

The story of Douglas Bader is a good one. Alas, the 2 hour documentary to 'find' his airplane was a complete bore and a waste of time.

Felt properly cheated at the end of it all when the conclusion of it all was that the thing was probably at the bottom of a lake.

Mother Theresa

No you're not, I agree with you totally. You shoot lots down but that is after they have done the damage to your poor civilians. A rather arrogant approach which sums the man up completely.

Vapid

It was war and numbers were on the side of the *****. Therefore a pragmatist would choose the approach which inflicts the greatest damage and reduces the amount of civilian casualties over time. Exactly what this policy did.

Bader was arrogant though no doubt about it and he bloody well had right to be. Made most other people look weak in comparison.

Jolly good show old boy.

Daz34

I must have watched a different programme then

scoobynutta555

You must have.

DanTheMan

Same here, I loved it, especially liked how they dug up the other planes and could tell which model one was by a tiny fragment of cog. I once discovered a crashed Hurricane on a remote hill on the scots borders, amazing how much wreckage is left on the surface when its miles from civilization and not recovered. You can even make out the roundels after all this time, loads of rusty .303 all over the place too.

dsmith

Debate over whether "big wings" were right or wrong would be of acedmic interest really - but as the war progressed it worked well. As said - more damage over time but less impact on the immediate raid.

Its been a good few years since I read the his biography but my recollection was that actually much of 12 group was anxious to join in but was held back (rightly so) for defence in depth.

It is frightening when you learn how very very close it was. Had Hitler not changed focus from beating the RAF to the Blitz he was just days away from reducing the RAF to an irrelevance.

my eternal thanks go to every one involved throughout WWII to ensure I can spend my days now talking utter bollox on the internet with so little real fear and hardship.

andythejock01wrx

Well said Smithy

Andy Mc

brihoppy

do you think if WWII happened in todays lefty, pc climate wed still get the do-gooders trying to keep us out of it...?!

Rabit

There were 'do gooders' trying to keep us out of it in 1939 as well. Try doing some reading round the subject before opening your yap.

scoobynutta555

Neville Chamberlain anyone?

Paul3446

This bloke played a major part in preventing **** occupation of Britain, I can't believe anyone comes on here and says "Oh he wasn't a very nice bloke"!

You people aren't living in the real world I'm afraid.

DCI Gene Hunt

Damn straight fella, we're living in Scooby-Net's virtual online world.........

Paul3446

That's not "living"!

DCI Gene Hunt

"I'm alive, ALIVE I tell you......"

Paul3446

But I bet you've never jumped into a plane on false legs, taken to the skies and blown merry hell out of two dozen Meschershmitts before returning home in time for tea on the lawn with the squadron leader!

DCI Gene Hunt

"Smoke me a kipper I'll be back for breakfast......"

Vapid

Conversely Hitler, in his early years at least, was meant to be a scream at parties and Fred West was meant to be a very genial host.
Go figure!

Paul3446

I doubt you will find many amazingly brave and heroic people who are really nice, it what makes them special. I'm a nice friendly chap who gets along with most people, but put me in a scary war situation and I'd probably sh*t my pants and run away, as would the people are slagging him off no doubt!

You are making the mistake of judging him from your own perspectives!