unclebuck

Back in the days when I was a 'Cheesy Quaver' raves were always allowed to proceed with a few bemused coppers hanging around on the perimeters enjoying earning the overtime.

These days though you are more likey to take a beating from an army of Kevlar clad gooks...

"They came and surrounded the first sound system and then got closer and closer until it turned into a proper confrontation and then they started beating people,"

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/essex/5290134.stm

At least, one of the Blair's boys got his finger end chopped off.

But even so, what the hell is going on in our once green and pleasant land? Let the kids have a bit of a rave on a Bank Holiday without all this:

Public safety and upholding the law are paramount so Essex Police mounted a 'controlled operation'

Bull****.

peter_l

Seen some photos of this earlier, shocking and disturbing.

GC8

You cant stop 'the kids' dancing; havent the watched Footloose...?

unclebuck

Damn right peter. The reason raves were always allowed to proceed once they had started was exactly to avoid this kind of pointless confrontation. That's clearly now all history under this worthless Stalinist Government.

They were just kids having a bit of fun for christ's sake.

StickyMicky

i posted up a link a year or so ago of the same kind of thing in america and they were really cracking people about over there

helicopters, dogs, blokes with big bat things and guns

the american one was supposed to be "legit" as well

Suresh

According to the story the landowner had not given permission for the party. Isn't the first rule of setting up a rave to make sure the venue owner is sweet?

Freak

Oooh its a flashback to the days of the 'kill the bill' protests

unclebuck

Well, apart from the blatant misuse of Police resources and Tax payers' money - there is simply no excuse to go around brutalising people in this way.

If there's a legal issue regarding 'trespass' then that can be sorted out post the event by the courts. That how we used to do things in this country once upon a time.

unclebuck

It's more reminiscent of the Battle of the Bean Field IMO

pslewis

We DO NOT want this noise polution!!!!!

GOOD ON THEM!!!!

Shut the lot down, arrest the organisers - bang them up for 10 years and beat up any hippy that so much as squeals 'Police State'!!

Excellent news!!

Pete

unclebuck

mart360

hah thats a joke, we had one near us, last year...


what did the local bib do

SOD ALL!!!! they claimed it would have been too dangerous to go onto the land in the dark, and the saftey of the officers was paramount, so they put a car at the end of the road to try and deter any new arrivals, and left them to it!!

bollox to the 5000 odd residents in the nearby towns who had to put up with the crap all night..

nice to know they have our interests at heart


Mart

Bubba po

Damned if they do, damned if they don't.

LOL, typical.

unclebuck

That's how it should be. No harm done. BooHoo you had to suffer a bit of noise? I would have gone down and joined in.

unclebuck

F*cked up isn't it? Let the warriors dance I say... let them let off some steam and enjoy themselves.

Place a couple of skips on site and they will even probs clear up afterwards. It's a lot cheaper (in every way) then sending in the 'boys'

Bubba po

I think they ought to party in your front garden without permission for their next event.

unclebuck

I will be there selling them mineral water 'm8' and not crying like a baby

pslewis

Remember, they will be pissing on your pansies and ****ting in your roses - they will be pukeing in your fishpond and ******** on your window ledge - they will be throwing used Jonnies into your lounge and kicking your windows in.

You can have the loud fooookwits .... no-one else wants to have their noise pollution rammed in their ears!!

Pete

mart360

got to say i,m with pete on this one,

i dont mind them having a party, but for 24 hrs?? sorry thats bang out of order

mart

Shark Man

Just confiscate their generators and decks. Problems solved.

No need to go mob handed.

astraboy

a few of my mates were there.
said it was rather scary, but some gave as good as they got.
the crackdown was ordered after the 2006 teknival in devon where 6000 people turned up and they linked 15 soundsystems together in a 147k horseshoe.
On the back of that they had to crackdown to show the ravers whos boss.
I went legal raving this weekend in light of this information.
A bit heavy handed according to my friends, but in this game you win some you lose some. Just remember.
"You can never shut down the entire party, you dont have access to that switch, no matter what you may think. The music will never stop. The party will never end."
astraboy.

T5OLF

iTrader: (4)

quote - they will be pukeing in your fishpond and ******** on your window ledge

You try ******** on 8 Es mr Lewis...sorry would proberbly kill a 70 year old...

lightning101

Trout

iTrader: (1)

So on the one hand if a bunch of people break the law it is a shocking example of police state overreacting, and yet in another where they break the law it is shocking example of political correctness gone wrong leading to gross leniency.

Just check over your thread history Mr UB and decide which is it to be.

OK to the break the law, or if the law is broken then apply the full force of the law of the land in line with the judicial precedent? You can't have it both ways.

Astraboy who actually goes to these events has it exactly spot on - he knows the risks and manages the consequences. He doesn't just sit behind his PC using it as an excuse to develop a stilted political agenda.

Rannoch

logiclee

Large scale illegal raves cause more damage, more disturbance and leave more rubbish than a field full of Pikeys and we all know how the thread would go if it was pikeys instead of ravers.
A bit two faced from some people if you ask me.
The cost of the clear up can run into tens of thousands which has to be picked up by the land owner or local authority. So we would be OK with higher council tax to pay for it?

The police action was justified IMO, it was hardly worth the local bobby turning up on his bike.
Just need the police to take the same action with the pikeys.

Cheers
Lee

Bubba po

I don't agree with dancing at all. It makes all the participants look like mongs.

lightning101

I don't think you can call spackers mongs anymore mate

Leslie

Nothing like a bit of rehearsal for the future police state though!

Les

Vlad the Impaler

Damn right.

The hypocracy on this BBS is a joke. It was an Illegal event.

Should have shot the ****ers from a distance, made sure no police injury .

Funny how trespass, criminal damage and drug dealing is somehow "ok" in these circumstances

astraboy

Its can be justified by a lot of people having the time of their lives.
Its dificult to explain unless you've actually been to one and appreciate it for what it is.
The heavy handedness is not always necessary. I remember going to a rave when the old bill turned up. It was looking bad when three cars came in, lights on, but after a bit of a chat with the organisers, and a small departure to chat with his super, the senior copper returned to the rave, on his own and an agreement was reached where the ravers could have their party provided the music was off and they were packing up by 10am and a litter pick was done .

The lone copper hand was shaked (several times) before he left and a single police car was left at the entrance to monitor things. At 10am the music stopped and the site was spotless when they left.

Quite often, compromise is better than cracking skulls. It engenders mutual respect for starters. gets results to.
astraboy.