Thursday Puzzle...............(good)
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Thursday Puzzle...............(good)
Three Guys decide to go and buy a car between them, they find a car for sale at £2500
Each of them decide to pay £1000 each so that they each own an equal share of the car
The car sales man goes back in to tell his sales manager the good news, that he sold the car for £3000 instead of £2500
His boss tells him to give the guys the £500 back as the car is was only worth £2500 in the first place, and he's a fair sales manager
Off goes the sales man approaches the guys and tells them that his boss has told him to give back the £500
The guys argue for a while, but decide on having £100 each back and giving the remaining £200 to the salesman
So
£900 x 3 = £2700 (total cost of the car)
£200 in the salesman's back pocket
£2700 + £200 = £2900
So where's the missing £100
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This has been posted in about 20 different forms, including restaurants, mcdonalds and even dickenzian prose. It pre-dates god's grandad
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Originally Posted by lightning101
This has been posted in about 20 different forms, including restaurants, mcdonalds and even dickenzian prose. It pre-dates god's grandad
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Here's another one exactly the same:
Mystery Christmas theft
As a last treat before the start of the busiest period of the year, Santa Claus and Rudolph the Reindeer decide to go out for a meal. The Easter Bunny comes along for company. They feast on scrumptious food and mulled wine, which makes Rudolph's nose glow redder than ever. At the end of the night the bill totals 30 North Pole Pounds, and the three decide to share it evenly, each paying 10 Pounds. The waiter takes the money and walks over to the til, where he meets the proprietress of the restaurant. She tells him that for these very distinguished guests the last bottle of mulled wine is on the house. That bottle was 5 Pounds, so now the bill only comes to 25 Pounds. She gives the waiter 5 Pound coins in change. But the waiter, not being a very honest sort and still holding a grudge about an undelivered present, slips two Pounds into his pocket and only returns 3 Pounds, 1 Pound to each of the three guests.
Now each has paid 9 Pounds, making 27 in total. The waiter stole 2 Pounds, making 29. But Santa, Rudolph and the Easter Bunny paid 30 Pounds in total! What happened to the missing Pound?
The solution
The answer is that once the three have been returned 1 Pound each, the total amount they have paid is 27 Pounds — 2 of these went to the waiter and 25 went to the restaurant. The number 30 has nothing to do with this once the 3 pounds have been returned; it was just thrown in to mislead you.
Mystery Christmas theft
As a last treat before the start of the busiest period of the year, Santa Claus and Rudolph the Reindeer decide to go out for a meal. The Easter Bunny comes along for company. They feast on scrumptious food and mulled wine, which makes Rudolph's nose glow redder than ever. At the end of the night the bill totals 30 North Pole Pounds, and the three decide to share it evenly, each paying 10 Pounds. The waiter takes the money and walks over to the til, where he meets the proprietress of the restaurant. She tells him that for these very distinguished guests the last bottle of mulled wine is on the house. That bottle was 5 Pounds, so now the bill only comes to 25 Pounds. She gives the waiter 5 Pound coins in change. But the waiter, not being a very honest sort and still holding a grudge about an undelivered present, slips two Pounds into his pocket and only returns 3 Pounds, 1 Pound to each of the three guests.
Now each has paid 9 Pounds, making 27 in total. The waiter stole 2 Pounds, making 29. But Santa, Rudolph and the Easter Bunny paid 30 Pounds in total! What happened to the missing Pound?
The solution
The answer is that once the three have been returned 1 Pound each, the total amount they have paid is 27 Pounds — 2 of these went to the waiter and 25 went to the restaurant. The number 30 has nothing to do with this once the 3 pounds have been returned; it was just thrown in to mislead you.
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Lightning can you please either pm or post the solution for the first puzzle, as i have just printed off numerous copies and passed them round the office
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Originally Posted by The Hoff
£3000 - the £200 that the saleman took is £2800
You got your maths wrong.
You got your maths wrong.
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Originally Posted by The Hoff
£3000 - the £200 that the saleman took is £2800
You got your maths wrong.
You got your maths wrong.
3x £100 = £300 - Refund of £100 each
Therefore £3000 minus £300 = £2700 total paid
Car = £2500
Salesmans cut = £200
Total recieved = £2700
Where is the missing £100 again.........
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Originally Posted by Reffro
3x £1000 = £3000 - Original sum paid out
3x £100 = £300 - Refund of £100 each
Therefore £3000 minus £300 = £2700 total paid
Car = £2500
Salesmans cut = £200
Total recieved = £2700
Where is the missing £100 again.........
3x £100 = £300 - Refund of £100 each
Therefore £3000 minus £300 = £2700 total paid
Car = £2500
Salesmans cut = £200
Total recieved = £2700
Where is the missing £100 again.........
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Its just a mathmatical twist, leave the maths out. they paid £2500 for the car because the guy sent the assistant back with £500. they got £300 back and the assistant took £200. Add it up and its right. They didnt pay £3000 like your trying to make out.
In total the 3 guys only paid £2700 from their pocket. £200 is in the assistants pocket and £2500 is in the seller of the cars pocket. The trick is your trying to find £3000 again when they havent paid £3000
In total the 3 guys only paid £2700 from their pocket. £200 is in the assistants pocket and £2500 is in the seller of the cars pocket. The trick is your trying to find £3000 again when they havent paid £3000
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Originally Posted by davegtt
Its just a mathmatical twist, leave the maths out. they paid £2500 for the car because the guy sent the assistant back with £500. they got £300 back and the assistant took £200. Add it up and its right. They didnt pay £3000 like your trying to make out.
In total the 3 guys only paid £2700 from their pocket. £200 is in the assistants pocket and £2500 is in the seller of the cars pocket. The trick is your trying to find £3000 again when they havent paid £3000
In total the 3 guys only paid £2700 from their pocket. £200 is in the assistants pocket and £2500 is in the seller of the cars pocket. The trick is your trying to find £3000 again when they havent paid £3000
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Remind me never to do business with The Hoff.
RMA - and there's me thinking you'd PM'd me a personal puzzle not aware of this post. Damn the answer was here all along. Good job I got the answer right
RMA - and there's me thinking you'd PM'd me a personal puzzle not aware of this post. Damn the answer was here all along. Good job I got the answer right
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Originally Posted by RLE
Remind me never to do business with The Hoff.
RMA - and there's me thinking you'd PM'd me a personal puzzle not aware of this post. Damn the answer was here all along. Good job I got the answer right
RMA - and there's me thinking you'd PM'd me a personal puzzle not aware of this post. Damn the answer was here all along. Good job I got the answer right
**Note** - he got it wrong....!
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£900 x 3 = £2700 (total cost of the car)
£200 in the salesman's back pocket
£2700 + £200 = £2900
So where's the missing £100
£200 in the salesman's back pocket
£2700 + £200 = £2900
So where's the missing £100
The problem isn't so much misleading - it's just that the information given is plain wrong! I will quote directly:
"£900 x 3 = £2700 (total cost of the car)" - logically this is correct as the men are effectively paying £200 extra to the saleman and splitting that costs between them £2500+200=£2700/3 = £900.
"£200 in the salesman's back pocket....£2700 + £200 = £2900" - logically incorrect. In fact, total f*cking fiction! That £2700 figure already accounts for the saleman's £200 so it cannot be taken account of again. What hasn't yet been accounted for is the refunded £300 (£100 each to the purchasers).
Logically the above should read: Cost of car and payment to salesman £2700 + £300 refund to purchasers = £3000. Hence there is no problem at all
In short the missing £100 is derived from the fact you incorrectly paid the saleman twice (therefore giving him £400)
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Originally Posted by Saxo Boy
This has got NOTHING to do with mathematical twists, etc. It's a logic failure in the way the question is asked that leads people all over the place. They did pay £3000, the story is quite clear on that. They were thereafter returned £100 each = £300 with the saleman taking £200 for himself. 200+3(100)+2500 = £3000. All accounted for
The problem isn't so much misleading - it's just that the information given is plain wrong! I will quote directly:
"£900 x 3 = £2700 (total cost of the car)" - logically this is correct as the men are effectively paying £200 extra to the saleman and splitting that costs between them £2500+200=£2700/3 = £900.
"£200 in the salesman's back pocket....£2700 + £200 = £2900" - logically incorrect. In fact, total f*cking fiction! That £2700 figure already accounts for the saleman's £200 so it cannot be taken account of again. What hasn't yet been accounted for is the refunded £300 (£100 each to the purchasers).
Logically the above should read: Cost of car and payment to salesman £2700 + £300 refund to purchasers = £3000. Hence there is no problem at all
In short the missing £100 is derived from the fact you incorrectly paid the saleman twice (therefore giving him £400)
The problem isn't so much misleading - it's just that the information given is plain wrong! I will quote directly:
"£900 x 3 = £2700 (total cost of the car)" - logically this is correct as the men are effectively paying £200 extra to the saleman and splitting that costs between them £2500+200=£2700/3 = £900.
"£200 in the salesman's back pocket....£2700 + £200 = £2900" - logically incorrect. In fact, total f*cking fiction! That £2700 figure already accounts for the saleman's £200 so it cannot be taken account of again. What hasn't yet been accounted for is the refunded £300 (£100 each to the purchasers).
Logically the above should read: Cost of car and payment to salesman £2700 + £300 refund to purchasers = £3000. Hence there is no problem at all
In short the missing £100 is derived from the fact you incorrectly paid the saleman twice (therefore giving him £400)
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There's is nothing complusive about my response - I'm just pointing out there isn't a problem to solve just one created by the author of the 'so-called' problem