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10 August 2006, 12:38 PM
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Theyre brainwashed. Simple really, we could pull our troops but Al Queda etc will still have a chip on its shoulder regarding the west and continue to exploit the youth in this country into doing this sort of thing again.
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10 August 2006, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by BOB'5
REALLY? Nothing to do with the xxx,xxx's of innocent Musilms being slaughtered?
I did ask in another thread that i am not too clued up with this religion thing, but from what i have been told (which could be very wrong) is it has nothing to do with the conficts elsewhere in the world, but the extremists want Britian to be an Islamic state, and all non belivers must die.
Is this true, is is it really down to the events in Iraq etc???
10 August 2006, 12:51 PM
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I went for our foriegn policy, as it doesnt seem that the Danish, Italian or Austrian are being targeted by home grown muslim nutters... Just us because our illustrious leader likes to crawl up Mr Bushes bottom and attack countries to help settle old scores for the US Presidents father...
Trouble is that even if we withdrew from our middle eastern trespasses, it is now too late...
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Trouble is that even if we withdrew from our middle eastern trespasses, it is now too late...
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10 August 2006, 12:51 PM
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Davegtt, our foreign policy has NOTHING to do with it?? You're fookin joking, right? I know your thoughts on this topic are a bit all over the place, but that's just made me double-take. How on Earth do you justify that? Is this just your Indian sound as a pound mate telling you his opinion??
10 August 2006, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Moley_WRX
Hi mate
I did ask in another thread that i am not too clued up with this religion thing, but from what i have been told (which could be very wrong) is it has nothing to do with the conficts elsewhere in the world, but the extremists want Britian to be an Islamic state, and all non belivers must die.
Is this true, is is it really down to the events in Iraq etc???
I did ask in another thread that i am not too clued up with this religion thing, but from what i have been told (which could be very wrong) is it has nothing to do with the conficts elsewhere in the world, but the extremists want Britian to be an Islamic state, and all non belivers must die.
Is this true, is is it really down to the events in Iraq etc???
10 August 2006, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by BOB'5
REALLY? Nothing to do with the xxx,xxx's of innocent Musilms being slaughtered?
10 August 2006, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by TelBoy
Davegtt, our foreign policy has NOTHING to do with it?? You're fookin joking, right? I know your thoughts on this topic are a bit all over the place, but that's just made me double-take. How on Earth do you justify that? Is this just your Indian sound as a pound mate telling you his opinion??
10 August 2006, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Moley_WRX
Hi mate
I did ask in another thread that i am not too clued up with this religion thing, but from what i have been told (which could be very wrong) is it has nothing to do with the conficts elsewhere in the world, but the extremists want Britian to be an Islamic state, and all non belivers must die.
Is this true, is is it really down to the events in Iraq etc???
I did ask in another thread that i am not too clued up with this religion thing, but from what i have been told (which could be very wrong) is it has nothing to do with the conficts elsewhere in the world, but the extremists want Britian to be an Islamic state, and all non belivers must die.
Is this true, is is it really down to the events in Iraq etc???
Are you being serious?
10 August 2006, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by davegtt
Off course it has its place, but the real problems are with the idiots out in Afgan and Iraq etc. Theyve always hated the west, these British Muslims that are getting involved have all been brainwashed by these type of people too. Otherwise all muslims would be having a pop at us.
But NOTHING to do with it?? I'm no Einstein, but it's pretty damned clear to me that if we weren't bombing the **** out of Afghanistan, Iraq etc etc the Muslims would feel just a tiny bit less aggrieved than they do now. Whether i want them here at all is another matter, but removing their incentive for committing suicide to kill as many non-Muslims as possible has to be a starting point, no?
10 August 2006, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by BOB'5
Gary,
Are you being serious?
Are you being serious?
When i was at school we just had the christian faith rammed down out throats, never explained to us the beliefs of other religions.
That would probably explain why so many people on here don't know exactly what the situation is.
I only know what i read on here (which is a mistake i know), but would really like to know what the truth is
Note i did say extremists, i know for a fact that 99.9% of muslims are just like the rest of us
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10 August 2006, 01:10 PM
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The fundamentalists have problems with less radical branches of Islam, you can see this from Muslim v Muslim killings all over the world. They dislike non-muslims even more than non-radical Muslims who they're happy to kill.
Although our foreign policy isn't exactly doing us any favours with these people, at the end of the day they're always going to hate eveyone who isn't another fundamentalist - it's that simple. If we pull out of Iraq, Afghanistan or wherever, they won't stop, they'll see it as a victory and continue to fight to get what they want.
Although our foreign policy isn't exactly doing us any favours with these people, at the end of the day they're always going to hate eveyone who isn't another fundamentalist - it's that simple. If we pull out of Iraq, Afghanistan or wherever, they won't stop, they'll see it as a victory and continue to fight to get what they want.
10 August 2006, 01:14 PM
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Why are you so sure though? Were we under threat of Muslim attacks before the Iraq war? I don't think so. Lockerbie was the start of it all. So why would they continue if we pulled out of Iraq and Afghanistan? We'd just become any other uninvolved country, albeit with a tarnished track record. That's how i see it anyway. Maybe i'm just being naive.
10 August 2006, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by BOB'5
Why are some people prepared to blow themselves up?
The damage they are doing to their already failed community in the name of some 'brothers' thousands of miles away is not a factor in their decision - which makes them unbelieveably dim or insane.
LOL at your failed poll though. You expected the majority of people to blame foreign policy and they didn't
. Why not try the Guardian newspaper site? There's lots of naiive lefty's there if you need company 
How's the terrorist under your bed by the way?
10 August 2006, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by DCI Gene Hunt
**** scoobynetters?......... 
Most muslims have much more respect for others than we do.
When i was younger my best 2 best friends were from Indonesia, and were so friendly, polite, and well bought up comapred to us brits.
It is just a shame that the very few with extreme beliefs ruin their reputation
10 August 2006, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Moley_WRX
I just wonder what the real reason is that all this happens.
When i was at school we just had the christian faith rammed down out throats, never explained to us the beliefs of other religions.
That would probably explain why so many people on here don't know exactly what the situation is.
I only know what i read on here (which is a mistake i know), but would really like to know what the truth is
When i was at school we just had the christian faith rammed down out throats, never explained to us the beliefs of other religions.
That would probably explain why so many people on here don't know exactly what the situation is.
I only know what i read on here (which is a mistake i know), but would really like to know what the truth is
1. It has nothing to do with British Muslims wanting an Islamic state.
2. It has everything to do with things that are going on in Iraq, Afghanistan, Palestine and now Lebanon.
3. The double standards re Nuclear weapons - Iraq, Iran etc cant have nuclear weapons yet they have the worlds most valuable resources to protect. And guess what?.....the only country to use Nuclear weapons on another country? Yep.....the USA.
4. It makes many peoples blood boil (inc non-musilms, like myself) and people get fed up protesting. Unfortunately there are Musilm radicals that will assist/manipulate these people into taking the only action they see will have any impact.
5. The US has so much blood on their hands. Bush is just a war monger. Unfortunatley we are dragged into it because Blair is Bush's lapdog.
6. We would not be attacked if we did not get involved with Bush's wars. Other countries are wise enough to stay clear and as a result dont get attacked.
10 August 2006, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by BOB'5
I'm not Musilm but I do have a good mix of friends and follow the news (BBC/Reuters) and don't rely on SN or News of the World, but this is my take on things.
1. It has nothing to do with British Muslims wanting an Islamic state.
2. It has everything to do with things that are going on in Iraq, Afghanistan, Palestine and now Lebanon.
3. The double standards re Nuclear weapons - Iraq, Iran etc cant have nuclear weapons yet they have the worlds most valuable resources to protect. And guess what?.....the only country to use Nuclear weapons on another country? Yep.....the USA.
4. It makes many peoples blood boil (inc non-musilms, like myself) and people get fed up protesting. Unfortunately there are Musilm radicals that will assist/manipulate these people into taking the only action they see will have any impact.
5. The US has so much blood on their hands. Bush is just a war monger. Unfortunatley we are dragged into it because Blair is Bush's lapdog.
6. We would not be attacked if we did not get involved with Bush's wars. Other countries are wise enough to stay clear and as a result dont get attacked.
1. It has nothing to do with British Muslims wanting an Islamic state.
2. It has everything to do with things that are going on in Iraq, Afghanistan, Palestine and now Lebanon.
3. The double standards re Nuclear weapons - Iraq, Iran etc cant have nuclear weapons yet they have the worlds most valuable resources to protect. And guess what?.....the only country to use Nuclear weapons on another country? Yep.....the USA.
4. It makes many peoples blood boil (inc non-musilms, like myself) and people get fed up protesting. Unfortunately there are Musilm radicals that will assist/manipulate these people into taking the only action they see will have any impact.
5. The US has so much blood on their hands. Bush is just a war monger. Unfortunatley we are dragged into it because Blair is Bush's lapdog.
6. We would not be attacked if we did not get involved with Bush's wars. Other countries are wise enough to stay clear and as a result dont get attacked.
Understand what you mean mate. Wonder when we'll see Blair on the telly taking credit for stopping these attacks?
10 August 2006, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Suresh
LOL at your failed poll though. You expected the majority of people to blame foreign policy and they didn't
. Why not try the Guardian newspaper site? There's lots of naiive lefty's there if you need company
10 August 2006, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by BOB'5
I'm not Musilm but I do have a good mix of friends and follow the news (BBC/Reuters) and don't rely on SN or News of the World, but this is my take on things.
1. It has nothing to do with British Muslims wanting an Islamic state.
2. It has everything to do with things that are going on in Iraq, Afghanistan, Palestine and now Lebanon.
3. The double standards re Nuclear weapons - Iraq, Iran etc cant have nuclear weapons yet they have the worlds most valuable resources to protect. And guess what?.....the only country to use Nuclear weapons on another country? Yep.....the USA.
4. It makes many peoples blood boil (inc non-musilms, like myself) and people get fed up protesting. Unfortunately there are Musilm radicals that will assist/manipulate these people into taking the only action they see will have any impact.
5. The US has so much blood on their hands. Bush is just a war monger. Unfortunatley we are dragged into it because Blair is Bush's lapdog.
6. We would not be attacked if we did not get involved with Bush's wars. Other countries are wise enough to stay clear and as a result dont get attacked.
1. It has nothing to do with British Muslims wanting an Islamic state.
2. It has everything to do with things that are going on in Iraq, Afghanistan, Palestine and now Lebanon.
3. The double standards re Nuclear weapons - Iraq, Iran etc cant have nuclear weapons yet they have the worlds most valuable resources to protect. And guess what?.....the only country to use Nuclear weapons on another country? Yep.....the USA.
4. It makes many peoples blood boil (inc non-musilms, like myself) and people get fed up protesting. Unfortunately there are Musilm radicals that will assist/manipulate these people into taking the only action they see will have any impact.
5. The US has so much blood on their hands. Bush is just a war monger. Unfortunatley we are dragged into it because Blair is Bush's lapdog.
6. We would not be attacked if we did not get involved with Bush's wars. Other countries are wise enough to stay clear and as a result dont get attacked.
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10 August 2006, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by BOB'5
No. The poll demonstates how many naive people there are on SN which aren't in touch with reality.
10 August 2006, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by TelBoy
Why are you so sure though? Were we under threat of Muslim attacks before the Iraq war? I don't think so. Lockerbie was the start of it all. So why would they continue if we pulled out of Iraq and Afghanistan? We'd just become any other uninvolved country, albeit with a tarnished track record. That's how i see it anyway. Maybe i'm just being naive.
You're being totally niave