Smokers need not apply.............
09 August 2006, 09:25 AM
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Smokers need not apply.............
Originally Posted by Eurotwats
BRUSSELS, Belgium - Companies in the European Union may legally refuse to hire smokers because EU anti-discrimination laws do not protect them, the European Commission said.
European Parliament member Catherine Stihler put a spotlight on the issue last week when she questioned the EU's executive panel about it, commission spokeswoman Katharina von Schnurbein said.
Stihler, a Scottish Labor lawmaker, was responding to constituents' reports of an Irish call-center's job advertisement that said "smokers need not apply."
"The commission is not against recruiting workers who smoke, but we have to stick to European legislation. Our anti-discrimination legislation for the workplace covers four areas — age, disability, religion or belief and sexual orientation. Then in general the rules cover gender and race, and that's it," said von Schnurbein, spokeswoman for Employment and Social Affairs Commissioner Vladimir Spidla.
"Smokers are not included in that list. There are a lot of things this doesn't cover — you could say I don't want an alcoholic working for me, whatever," she said.
European Parliament member Catherine Stihler put a spotlight on the issue last week when she questioned the EU's executive panel about it, commission spokeswoman Katharina von Schnurbein said.
Stihler, a Scottish Labor lawmaker, was responding to constituents' reports of an Irish call-center's job advertisement that said "smokers need not apply."
"The commission is not against recruiting workers who smoke, but we have to stick to European legislation. Our anti-discrimination legislation for the workplace covers four areas — age, disability, religion or belief and sexual orientation. Then in general the rules cover gender and race, and that's it," said von Schnurbein, spokeswoman for Employment and Social Affairs Commissioner Vladimir Spidla.
"Smokers are not included in that list. There are a lot of things this doesn't cover — you could say I don't want an alcoholic working for me, whatever," she said.
and we're now on par with alcoholics........ nice 
09 August 2006, 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by DCI Gene Hunt
Well that's that then....... time to stub out those tabs! and we're now on par with alcoholics........ nice
and we're now on par with alcoholics........ nice
09 August 2006, 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by KiwiGTI
Yes, I've always thought you were. It's generally a habit for absolute losers these days.
PS - Kiwi's and alcoholics.......... hmmm you must know how it feels then.........
09 August 2006, 12:38 PM
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Thats Glasgow fooked then, everybody smokes up there based on my last visit, the only one who didnt on the course I was on got through 40 quids worth of Niccorette gum a week !
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09 August 2006, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by KiwiGTI
Yes, I've always thought you were. It's generally a habit for absolute losers these days.
09 August 2006, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by WRX300MAN
I second that! . . That's why I stopped!
09 August 2006, 01:14 PM
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Could DCI please STFU!
DCI Gene Hunt is a c*nt!This may expalin a lot! . . . .
. . . . .Nooo . .I stopped smoking because I am on the winning team so think again!
. . . . . . . . .Nooo . .I stopped smoking because I am on the winning team so think again!
09 August 2006, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by DCI Gene Hunt
DCI is currently out of the office being an absolute loser......... he will be back in 5 minutes smelling of ashtrays and having yellow fingers ........ you however will remain a complete ****** whatever you decide to do........
09 August 2006, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by StickyMicky
I think I'm falling in love with DCI Gene Hunt, I mean.... he's just sooooooo marlborough man and I just wish I looked as cool as he does 
09 August 2006, 01:26 PM
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No . . .That very much is the point . . 
. . .Smoking . .That's a cult, rather than a religion . .Except perhaps the Rastafari movement - but even there it is not compulsory to smoke cannabis . . .
So . .Once again Skyline . . .What is your point . .
. . .Smoking . .That's a cult, rather than a religion . .Except perhaps the Rastafari movement - but even there it is not compulsory to smoke cannabis . . . So . .Once again Skyline . . .What is your point . .
09 August 2006, 01:40 PM
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If smoking is part of your religion then they can't legally refuse to employ you because you smoke as they would also be discriminating against you because of your religion.
Simple really?
Simple really?
09 August 2006, 01:51 PM
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But Skyline . . .Matie . . .
. . . .But I asked you a simple question . . .Name me a religion that saiz you must smoke tobacco and polute yourself??You have not answered the question, because no such religion exists . . .Using religion as an excuse does not stick . . .
But even if we take the Rastafari movement as an extreme example, please observe the following . . .
"-Attorney General of the United States Janet Reno, however, though not a judge, ruled that Rastafari do not have the religious right to smoke ganja in violation of drug laws in the United States of America. The position is the same in the United Kingdom, where, in the Court of Appeal case of R. v. Taylor [2002] 1 Cr. App. R. 37, it was held that the UK's prohibition on cannabis use did not contravene the right to freedom of religion conferred under the European Convention of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms"
. . . .But I asked you a simple question . . .Name me a religion that saiz you must smoke tobacco and polute yourself??You have not answered the question, because no such religion exists . . .Using religion as an excuse does not stick . . .
But even if we take the Rastafari movement as an extreme example, please observe the following . . .
"-Attorney General of the United States Janet Reno, however, though not a judge, ruled that Rastafari do not have the religious right to smoke ganja in violation of drug laws in the United States of America. The position is the same in the United Kingdom, where, in the Court of Appeal case of R. v. Taylor [2002] 1 Cr. App. R. 37, it was held that the UK's prohibition on cannabis use did not contravene the right to freedom of religion conferred under the European Convention of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms"
09 August 2006, 02:01 PM
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I am enjoying this!
But Skyline! Please feel free to start your own religion! You and your Army of loyal followers! Or have you perhaps thought of converting to any of the worlds religions . .Thy're all more or less the same!
But Skyline! Please feel free to start your own religion! You and your Army of loyal followers! Or have you perhaps thought of converting to any of the worlds religions . .Thy're all more or less the same!
09 August 2006, 02:03 PM
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The new religion, called Smokiology, was created by the Reverend Jonah "Matches" Hanlon, who preaches at the First Church of Smoking, in Kentucky.
On the ceiling of the First Church of Smoking is a large painting modeled after Michelangelo's painting on the Sistine Chapel, where God stretches out his finger to touch Adam, giving him life. On the Church of Smoking ceiling, a flickering cigarette lighter is lighting a cigarette.
"Because when a cigarette is lit, that's when life begins for us, as well," Hanlon said. "Cigarettes are the first thing we reach for in the morning, and the last thing we put down before bedtime."
Instead of saying "Amen" at the end of a sermon, congregants emit a hearty cough.
<cough>....................
09 August 2006, 02:04 PM
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So you get yourself ordained as minister of your own religion which dictates that you must smoke, do whatever you want, etc. etc. Apply to job of your choice that says smokers need not apply and when they don't give you the job because you smoke you play the reigious discrimination card.
Originally Posted by SJ_Skyline
That's not the point - $25 and you can be ordained as minister of your own religion
09 August 2006, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Fat Boy
DCI Hunt/ PSL smokes.
Best news I've heard all day.
Best news I've heard all day.