Hacxked already .. what now for ID cards?
07 August 2006, 09:40 AM
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Hacxked already .. what now for ID cards?
Just seen this (no, I do not read the Grauniad - it was linked from another site!"!).
http://politics.guardian.co.uk/homea...838754,00.html
But the opening paragraph is:
"Hi-tech biometric passports used by Britain and other countries have been hacked by a computer expert, throwing into doubt fundamental parts of the UK's £415m scheme to load passports with information such as fingerprints, facial scans and iris patterns"
As everyone and his uncle has been saying since the inception of the ID card scheme - it'll get hacked! Nah, says big bruv, it'll be totally secure ...... :-(
Wonder what their response will be now???
Dave - just renewed his non-Biometric passport ...
PS: why can't they charge an extra £20, say, and give us the choice of the good old, REAL, Uk passport???/
http://politics.guardian.co.uk/homea...838754,00.html
But the opening paragraph is:
"Hi-tech biometric passports used by Britain and other countries have been hacked by a computer expert, throwing into doubt fundamental parts of the UK's £415m scheme to load passports with information such as fingerprints, facial scans and iris patterns"
As everyone and his uncle has been saying since the inception of the ID card scheme - it'll get hacked! Nah, says big bruv, it'll be totally secure ...... :-(
Wonder what their response will be now???
Dave - just renewed his non-Biometric passport ...
PS: why can't they charge an extra £20, say, and give us the choice of the good old, REAL, Uk passport???/
07 August 2006, 09:42 AM
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If any of your details are incorrect on the NIR then it will be your fault and you will be liable to a £1000 fine. 
Bend over and bite that pillow folks
Bend over and bite that pillow folks
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07 August 2006, 09:45 AM
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Hello
A more detailed analysis here: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/08...ng_epassports/. Not quite hacked, but worrying enough.
Steve
A more detailed analysis here: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/08...ng_epassports/. Not quite hacked, but worrying enough.
Steve
07 August 2006, 10:12 AM
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True, but the Register article signs off with:
"Which, really, leaves us dealing with the baseline ICAO security, the obvious vulnerabilities in its specification, and sufficiently porous borders for these vulnerabilities to be exploited. Kind of like the good old days (i.e., today), isn't it? Except it costs us more" .....
And the comment that you can't hack it and can't alter it is true (as far as published *results* go ..) only as of today .... the nearer these systems get to getting the green light the more efforts wil go into cloning (done), hacking and altering (forging) the data. It's only a matter of time ....
Dave
"Which, really, leaves us dealing with the baseline ICAO security, the obvious vulnerabilities in its specification, and sufficiently porous borders for these vulnerabilities to be exploited. Kind of like the good old days (i.e., today), isn't it? Except it costs us more" .....
And the comment that you can't hack it and can't alter it is true (as far as published *results* go ..) only as of today .... the nearer these systems get to getting the green light the more efforts wil go into cloning (done), hacking and altering (forging) the data. It's only a matter of time ....
Dave
07 August 2006, 11:16 AM
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To change the subject somewhat this potential problem has also been raised in connection with the proposed ID cards.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/10...dcard_assault/
It seems that the government is having problems finding any reputable software developers, who are willing to take on ID cards. Microsft don't want to touch it with a barge pole.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/10...dcard_assault/
It seems that the government is having problems finding any reputable software developers, who are willing to take on ID cards. Microsft don't want to touch it with a barge pole.
07 August 2006, 11:17 AM
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I have to claim that I forecast this a while ago but I am sure that most of us had worked it out already.
They have lots of hi tech equipment to monitor us for all sorts of things these days, but are unable to control illegal immigration or even escaping criminals etc. That says a lot about this excuse for a government I think.
Les
They have lots of hi tech equipment to monitor us for all sorts of things these days, but are unable to control illegal immigration or even escaping criminals etc. That says a lot about this excuse for a government I think.
Les
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07 August 2006, 07:29 PM
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But there may be a God - go see this report .....
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/08..._id_expansion/
which ends ...
"Dyning ID scheme alert: The Sunday Times reports that the Home Office has a more modest wheeze for making the ID scheme pay for itself. Charge every £8 every time they change their details on the NIR. This one's actually quite compelling as an idea - it would kill off the scheme far more swiftly and at less expense than Gordon's longer-ranging mega-disaster, and might just make John Reid even less likeable than he is already. We're impressed".
Dave
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/08..._id_expansion/
which ends ...
"Dyning ID scheme alert: The Sunday Times reports that the Home Office has a more modest wheeze for making the ID scheme pay for itself. Charge every £8 every time they change their details on the NIR. This one's actually quite compelling as an idea - it would kill off the scheme far more swiftly and at less expense than Gordon's longer-ranging mega-disaster, and might just make John Reid even less likeable than he is already. We're impressed".
Dave
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