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Old 07 August 2006, 08:30 AM
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Angry How come revenge is always "wreaked"?

It smacks of a lack of imagination, to me.

You could say took, visited, had, extracted etc. but no. It's always wreaked.
Old 07 August 2006, 08:32 AM
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so is havoc
Old 07 August 2006, 08:38 AM
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Because it is...........
Old 07 August 2006, 08:44 AM
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Geoff, are you not thinking of "havoc"?
Old 07 August 2006, 08:53 AM
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summat fishy here..
Old 07 August 2006, 09:05 AM
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Yep, positively reeks...
Old 07 August 2006, 09:31 AM
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Hello

Because "Took Revenge" means that someone, well, did something in retaliation whereas "Wreaked Revenge" implies that the revenge is something painful, catastrophic, they got immense pleasure from it.

Steve

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Old 07 August 2006, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Bubba po
It smacks of a lack of imagination, to me.

You could say took, visited, had, extracted etc. but no. It's always wreaked.
It is?

Never really noticed myself. I think you are making it up simply to have something to post, given that you have exhausted everything else ....

And why post this in NSR? Its clearly a muppet post...

If you were serious you would have posted with the icon, not the overdramatic, attention seeking and genarally so out of context and that you are so fond of.

Does the subject of your question really annoy you? Are you really that sad?

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Old 07 August 2006, 11:23 AM
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It is an English word and has been used for many years. Unlike the word "proven" which is an old Scottish legal term. The correct word in English is "proved"

I wonder why the word "issue" has recently come into being as a replacement for the word "problem".

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Old 07 August 2006, 11:35 AM
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Not so sure about that, Leslie. Proven, first recorded use in 1653, no mention of Scottish, no mention of legal context.
Old 07 August 2006, 11:55 AM
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Revenge is also 'served'. As in that old Klingon proverb
"Revenge is best served cold"
Old 07 August 2006, 12:07 PM
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It's just a journalistic cliche. Wait till the first frost of the year - there will be a 'spate' of [road] accidents
Old 07 August 2006, 12:11 PM
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Theres loads of cliches like that, there are other things that make me wonder, for example the word Disgruntled, is it possible to like something and be Gruntled about it ?
Old 07 August 2006, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Leslie
It is an English word and has been used for many years. Unlike the word "proven" which is an old Scottish legal term. The correct word in English is "proved"

I wonder why the word "issue" has recently come into being as a replacement for the word "problem".

Les

Because "issue" is less confrontational. If someone has a problem, it means it needs to be tackled. If it's mealy an issue, it does not sound as serious so can probably be left along.

It's all managment speak really.
Old 07 August 2006, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by TonyG
Revenge is also 'served'. As in that old Klingon proverb
"Revenge is best served cold"
Loser

Shouldn't you be on StarTrekNet.com or at a conference or something.

Old 07 August 2006, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by J4CKO
Theres loads of cliches like that, there are other things that make me wonder, for example the word Disgruntled, is it possible to like something and be Gruntled about it ?
Source: Jack Winter. 1994. How I met my wife. New Yorker, July 25.

It had been a rough day, so when I walked into the party I was very chalant, despite my efforts to appear gruntled and consolate.

I was furling my wieldy umbrella for the coat check when I saw her standing alone in a corner. She was a descript person, a woman in a state of total array. Her hair was kempt, her clothing shevelled, [or should that be hevelled?—BES] and she moved in a gainly way.

I wanted desperately to meet her, but I knew I'd have to make bones about it, since I was travelling cognito. Beknownst to me, the hostess, whom I could see both hide and hair of, was very proper, so it would be skin off my nose if anything bad happened. And even though I had only swerving loyalty to her, my manners couldn't be peccable. Only toward and heard-of behavior would do.

Fortunately, the embarrassment that my maculate appearance might cause was evitable. There were two ways about it, but the chances that someone as flappable as I would be ept enough to become persona grata or a sung hero were slim. I was, after all, something to sneeze at, someone you could easily hold a candle to, someone who usually aroused bridled passion.

So I decided not to risk it. But then, all at once, for some apparent reason, she looked in my direction and smiled in a way that I could make heads or tails of.

I was plussed. It was concerting to see that she was communicado, and it nerved me that she was interested in a pareil like me, sight seen. Normally, I had a domitable spirit, but, being corrigible, I felt capacitated—as if there were something I was great shakes at—and forgot that I had succeeded in situations like this only a told number of times. So, after a terminable delay, I acted with mitigated gall and made my way through the ruly crowd with strong givings.

Nevertheless, since this was all new hat to me and I had no time to prepare a promptu speech, I was petuous. Wanting to make only called-for remarks, I started talking about the hors d'oeuvres, trying to abuse her of the notion that I was sipid, and perhaps even bunk a few myths about myself.

She responded well, and I was mayed that she considered me a savory character who was up to some good. She told me who she was. "What a perfect nomer," I said, advertently. The conversation became more and more choate, and we spoke at length to much avail. But I was defatigable, so I had to leave at a godly hour. I asked if she wanted to come with me. To my delight, she was committal. We left the party together and have been together ever since. I have given her my love, and she has requited it.
Old 07 August 2006, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Coffin Dodger
Loser

Shouldn't you be on StarTrekNet.com or at a conference or something.

Not really, as I don't follow Star Trek that closely. Didn't even know there was a website as the one above, and I much prefer to be at Scooby/Muppet meets.
It's not actually a Klingon proverb, it's from Hamlet, by Shakespeare.
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Just wondered... can i wreak cold revenge?
Old 07 August 2006, 01:30 PM
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Brendan, that's excellent, or should I say cellent
Old 07 August 2006, 05:12 PM
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Living hell is the best revenge.

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Old 07 August 2006, 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Diablo
It is?

Never really noticed myself. I think you are making it up simply to have something to post, given that you have exhausted everything else ....

And why post this in NSR? Its clearly a muppet post...

If you were serious you would have posted with the icon, not the overdramatic, attention seeking and genarally so out of context and that you are so fond of.

Does the subject of your question really annoy you? Are you really that sad?
God, you're a miserable get, Diablo.
Old 07 August 2006, 06:16 PM
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Brendan, that's great, thanks !
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Originally Posted by Bubba po
God, you're a miserable get, Diablo.
What? You "just" noticed


Mind, he was more miserable when he was still a mod
Old 08 August 2006, 01:28 PM
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Telboy,

I was told off at school for using Proven in a maths proof of some kind and told about the Scottish bit. I looked it up in the OED and it said that it is Scottish and used a good few years ago. Thats all I know.

Les
Old 08 August 2006, 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Shark Man
What? You "just" noticed


Mind, he was more miserable when he was still a mod


I wouldn't say miserable - just intollerant of wastefulness
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