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Old 09 July 2006, 03:32 PM
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Im after a House alarm and due to the massive range they sell today, I was wondering if anyone can point me in the right direction...

Would you recommend these wireless ones??? as anyone got one tried tested etc

...or go for the good old 7000 meters of cable roaming your house??
Old 09 July 2006, 04:47 PM
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You want a professionally installed wired alarm system.
Old 09 July 2006, 05:12 PM
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I agree with Gatecrasher on this one. Go for a professionally installed one. I had a off the shelf one to put it bluntly didn`t rate it or the DIY installation. Also I never got to find out how good it was if you know what I mean?
If you do get one installed by a reputable company etc, its peace of mind as well.

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Old 09 July 2006, 06:09 PM
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none of it is rocket science tbh. But if you don't fancy reading the manual a few times and having a go yourself, you could always put the wires in and just get a guy around to do the final connecting up.

I wouldn't touch a wireless one myself - after seeing a mate's a while back, but maybe they're better now. Still, I like to view my alarm as a serious bit of kit, and not some kid's toy that always needs new batteries ;-)

I've always used texecom kit and found it easy to install and reliable. Get one with a 'phone dialer in and then at least you get a call when it goes off. Let's face it, few people care when an alarm goes off nowadays, so you want the alarm to let you know what's going on.
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Agree - Phone dialer is a must.

Sirens get ignored, unless its a "master blaster"

A wired system is only as complex as fitting a phone system or wired Ethernet network.

There are good wireless systems out there, but you won't find them a DIY shops, and fetch a premium.

And if you go for a DIY system that has the sensors that run off batteries - factor in the cost of replacing all those pp3 9volt batteries every year to mainatin reliability
Old 09 July 2006, 07:31 PM
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Go for hard wired system and dont get cheap detectors (false alarm reasons).
If you want something to alert you get an SD1 ( rings you when alarm is activated).

Or if you want a professional one www.chubb.co.uk mention me as I might get a rise
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Had wireless for 10 years. Installed new one last month. Had no problems whatsoever. Only downside is batteries need changing every year in sensors but I can get them free from work anyway.

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Old 10 July 2006, 08:42 AM
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We re-wired the house last year and went with a hard wired Challenger system with dialer. Also got the garage hooked up to it all. Not had any false alarms, but it did pick the dog up wandering about the house when the misses forgot to lock him in the kitchen
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Depends where you are, but we used these guys: http://www.banham.com/

Very professional and courteous; they specified & fitted a neat system with the minimum of wiring (mains powered with battery backup).

The quotes and kit that some of the "big names" wanted us to buy were stupidly OTT and seemed specced to boost the salesman's commission!
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Originally Posted by OllyK
We re-wired the house last year and went with a hard wired Challenger system with dialer. Also got the garage hooked up to it all. Not had any false alarms, but it did pick the dog up wandering about the house when the misses forgot to lock him in the kitchen
You can get pet-safe PIR/combo sensors

Granted, some are better than others. And they aren't so good if you have a large dog
Old 10 July 2006, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Chip
Only downside is batteries need changing every year in sensors but I can get them free from work anyway.

Chip

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Old 10 July 2006, 11:06 AM
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I used a Yale wirless DIY system.....been fautless, sensors all over the place, multiple ringer boxes, PIRs, window sensors, door sensors, remote setting by phone or remote control, auto dialer, panic buttons, etc ,etc

cant fault it.
Old 10 July 2006, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Shark Man
You can get pet-safe PIR/combo sensors

Granted, some are better than others. And they aren't so good if you have a large dog

A Bosch DS835I or Bosch Blueline will not detect a Dog up to 45kg or two dogs of 26kg or up to 10 cats,rodents or flying birds

HTH

Ps. in the trade

Always go for hard wired it's far better than wireless their are lots of companies out there that will want to remove your kidneys for payment and the like

Have a look at your local trading standards website for details of approved installers on their books

And at all costs avoid the well know 3 letter company **T as you will be tied into their crap system for upto 5 years, you have been warned !!!
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AD what?
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Originally Posted by Peanuts
AD what?




Old 10 July 2006, 05:01 PM
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Much appreciated for the replies guys!!

As mentioned already, I have came across the Yale wireless and read up on some reviews and they came up quite good but yes I must agree, I prefer the hardcore, Just wanted your opinions.

Having to change the Batts every year aint a prob really but If it turns out the Original is better than the Wireless, then Original it is
Old 10 July 2006, 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Raartoot
Much appreciated for the replies guys!!

As mentioned already, I have came across the Yale wireless and read up on some reviews and they came up quite good but yes I must agree, I prefer the hardcore, Just wanted your opinions.

Having to change the Batts every year aint a prob really but If it turns out the Original is better than the Wireless, then Original it is

Look at it this way how many wirless alarms meet up to and above the EN50131/PD6662 standards

Trust the guys that know, you won't regret it.
Old 10 July 2006, 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Huxley

Been there with the business system.

We've lost our Police response due to their "engineer" fiddling with a door sensor causing a false alarm. Then we found out for some bizarre reason the phone numbers they had on their system to alert us had been swapped for the original ones from 10year previous (before BT kindly added an extra digit ).

They had our current numbers, we had proof that they had the current alert numbers. But the police did teh usual "we'll no longer attented any further call outs for a period of xx months "

When the cooling off period was up, they wouldn't allow us to go back on the police call out, as our system no longer conformed to their current standard

In other words, kindly give us £xxxx to fit a new system, even though the old one is perfectly fine.

Are Chubb any better, that is, if they do a police/redcare service?
Old 10 July 2006, 07:26 PM
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Oh the staff of that wonderful company

Any way what area are you in ? Chubb are ok, but you still will get the national company customer care regime


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Old 10 July 2006, 07:37 PM
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Midlands

There is nothing better than to wait at w*rk for 3hours after closing for an "engineer" to arrive and punch in a code to reset the panel because it won't remote reset

No doubt it will have to be a new system install, but as a "new" customer I could always hope they will give a few incentive discounts to move away from A*T
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Have a look here for a local installer but then look for a local trading standards approved one as well.

Here

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