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Old 01 June 2006, 12:27 PM
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http://www.waterpoweredcar.com/

Not for one moment saying it is possible,but watched a documentary about an American scientist who had discovered a new process of electrolysis which was several hundred % more efficient than the current method of extracting hydrogen from water after producing several versions cell mostly running gas cutting equipment ,he then set about producing a car that ran on this technology,at which point he was murdered.

What would happen to the world economy if this clean fuel source become availible? it seems most of the world economy is based around revenue generated from oil would it collapse?
It seems the oil giants would have a vested interest in keeping this technology under wraps to protect the $100trillion oil industry
Old 01 June 2006, 12:36 PM
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So if the water is burning off into Steam, imagine all the cars on the road doing that? Surely it'll be chucking it down everyday with the laws of percipetation?
Old 01 June 2006, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by davegtt
So if the water is burning off into Steam, imagine all the cars on the road doing that? Surely it'll be chucking it down everyday with the laws of percipetation?
Ending third world drought. Everyone wins
Old 01 June 2006, 12:42 PM
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Aye but then the green peace idiots will be moaning that we're changing the climate of the earth
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Only bi product from the exhaust should be water
Old 01 June 2006, 12:46 PM
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So we'll be spitting water out onto the road? making unsafe driving conditions? Surely the water would have evaporated no?
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Surely it could be retained?
Old 01 June 2006, 12:50 PM
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Suppose it depends on how much water it needs per mile.
Old 01 June 2006, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by davegtt
Suppose it depends on how much water it needs per mile.
It doesn't multiply, Dave - it'd be less than you put in initially.
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Originally Posted by davegtt
So we'll be spitting water out onto the road? making unsafe driving conditions? Surely the water would have evaporated no?

The car I saw the gasses burnt that efficently that the waste gasses were virtually nil so only water came out of the exhaust, whweras the petrol/hybrid cars do spit out steam.
Old 01 June 2006, 12:59 PM
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It doesn't multiply, Dave - it'd be less than you put in initially.
LOL obviously, what I mean though is if it uses a litre of water to move the car 1 mile at 70mph then it'd use alot of water, that lot evaporated has got to go back into the air. percipitation means more rain....

Unless I aint understanding it properly, in which case I'll shut up.
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You all have no idea of the physics involved. Its total bollox!
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Originally Posted by warrenm2
You all have no idea of the physics involved. Its total bollox!
Indeed the amount of energy you need to put in to break the H-O-H bonds to generate free Hydrogen far out weighs what you get back when you burn it. Have a read up on perpetual motion and free energy machines. Lots of people claiming they are on the brink of a big discovery, looking for funding. Then odly go bust and re-appear as a new company a few months later. These guys are professional alright, just not scientists.

ETA: Interestingly when you read example sites, the cars are actually running on hydrogen, not water. The hydrogen is produced external to the car via normal electrolysis but using solar power to generate the massive amounts of electricty. Seeing is solar really isn't used on a large scale other than in deserts, I don't see that part being viable in the UK at least.

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Originally Posted by warrenm2
You all have no idea of the physics involved. Its total bollox!
It is already possible to extract hydrogen from water,its just current process's require 3 times as much energy,than you get out,making it very costly.
If they are pouring hydrogen into their cars how come it is in liguid form?surely it would need to be at -242°C.
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Originally Posted by kingofturds
It is already possible to extract hydrogen from water,its just current process's require 3 times as much energy,than you get out,making it very costly.
None of that has changed, they are just proposing the use of Solar power, which is great in California, not so good in the UK

If they are pouring hydrogen into their cars how come it is in liguid form?surely it would need to be at -242°C.
They tend to use special metals where the hydrogen is stored in the spaces between the metalic atoms.

ETA - interstitial hydrides

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Call me when there is a turbo version

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I remember a similar story in the papers about 10-20 years ago. Some dude from Cumbernauld had a car running on water and it used hardly any fuel. He dissapeared

I believe 100% that the technology for free energy (or at least VERY cheap) for all the world exists and that the only reason it isn't available is because of the power of oil companies and governments. They sell the oil to us and in the meantime will be figuring out a way to charge us for the free energy when the oil runs out

***Imgaine just for a second what the world would be like if people worked for the greater good rather than money and power***
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I was told last night that santa is made up
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I first touched on the subject whilst doing a project amout Nikolas tesla at college a few years back. When trying to convince the world of the benefits of ac current over the already wildly installed dc current supply in the Usa, he was denounced by well regarded scientests and the establishment, as a crackpotwithout any universtity degrees whatsoever .They all knew that his proposed AC power system would never work. And if it did, edisons company stood to lose 100's of millions of$'s. The rest is history
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Originally Posted by Saxo Boy
I remember a similar story in the papers about 10-20 years ago. Some dude from Cumbernauld had a car running on water and it used hardly any fuel. He dissapeared
Have you checked the local mental homes?

I believe 100% that the technology for free energy (or at least VERY cheap) for all the world exists and that the only reason it isn't available is because of the power of oil companies and governments. They sell the oil to us and in the meantime will be figuring out a way to charge us for the free energy when the oil runs out
There are possibilities, fusion, solar, wave, wind, the problem is they are all either inefficient or not yet possible. Hydrogen power etc is possible, it just costs a lot to generate the fuel, if you can produce cheap electricity from fusion etc then the fuel will become cheaper.

***Imgaine just for a second what the world would be like if people worked for the greater good rather than money and power***
There are thousands of people in labs all over the world doing just that
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There are possibilities, fusion, solar, wave, wind, the problem is they are all either inefficient or not yet possible. Hydrogen power etc is possible, it just costs a lot to generate the fuel, if you can produce cheap electricity from fusion etc then the fuel will become cheaper.
"Possibilities" Uh-huh. And I suppose Princess Diana died in what.....an "accident"?
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I was only asking what would happen to the world economies if this technology became available
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could pipe it all down south then there wouldnt be a shortage....

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Originally Posted by kingofturds
I was only asking what would happen to the world economies if this technology became available
They would take off because there would be no restriction on energy. Raw materials could be extracted almost for free, and manufacturing costs would plummet....
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Originally Posted by Saxo Boy
"Possibilities" Uh-huh. And I suppose Princess Diana died in what.....an "accident"?
Funnily enough, everything is not a conspiracy, the people in power are, in general, not sufficiently bright to pull it off.
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Originally Posted by warrenm2
They would take off because there would be no restriction on energy. Raw materials could be extracted almost for free, and manufacturing costs would plummet....
What about the 100's of billions lost in tax revenue, plus sevral companies worth trillions going belly up.
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there was a car made to run off tap water about 5-6 years back it did work the guy that made it lives on the isle of wight now however no one was willing to make and he got bought out and made a fair bit of money not to make any more sad really
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Originally Posted by Reality
I was told last night that santa is made up
You mean he wears make up surely.
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Originally Posted by Reality
I was told last night that santa is made up

I was told santa was sent down for 50 years after being caught emptying his bulging sacks in childrens bedrooms.
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Originally Posted by gotmashed
there was a car made to run off tap water about 5-6 years back it did work the guy that made it lives on the isle of wight now however no one was willing to make and he got bought out and made a fair bit of money not to make any more sad really
I very much doubt he created a car that runs on tap water alone. It may be a component that is electrolysed to form Hydrogen, but you're not going to create a car that runs of plain old tap water. By all means point us in the direction of his published papers showing that it did work, but until then I suspect you mis-remembered the story.


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