unclebuck

Quote:

The government is to review whether "core British values" should become a compulsory part of the curriculum for all 11 to 16-year-olds in England.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/4771443.stm


This is the latest New labour ****. These so called 'core British values' will of course be core New Labour values.

This is a complete abuse of our education system. Nothing short of indoctrination and brainwashing our children into adopting 'new labour' values rather than being allowed to make up their own minds what they think about issues such as the disastrous policy of 'multi-culturalism' that has been foisted on this country. Why can't they be honest for once and say they want to introduce compulsory classes in 'New Labour'?

Nothing is safe with this lot in charge, not even the minds of children.

AudiLover

They have them in america and they are over patriotic. I saw a indian girl that tried making herself into a white girl and she looked like a fool. Bleach Blonde air with black roots and white makeup.

JTaylor

Hello UB,

Hope you're well. What would be the content of your class?

Son of Quatto

'Hope you're well. What would be the content of your class?'

Decent honest hard working people. Exterminate the Chav class as they produce illigitimate fools who we have to pay for.

Leslie

They have presided over the gross dereliction of standards over the last 9 years as well as the virtual destruction of the traditional family. This of course is the major reason that we are experiencing all the problems we are having now with crime and violent behaviour. Educational standards have dropped severely so that performance is artificially made to look so much better than it really is.

What chance therefore have this sorry lot of educating children in real core values when they have no idea what that means anyway?

Les

unclebuck

Hi, I'm good thanks - hope you are too.


I wouldn't allow indoctrination classes masquerading as 'core values'. I think it stinks.

'Core values' whatever they are should be taught to children by their parents, as your's were taught to you. Not spoon fed some kind of agenda driven, politically correct left wing manipulation designed to create a new generation of New Labour acolytes. It's a disgraceful suggestion.

JTaylor

"Ok children, today we're going to talk about eugenics".

JTaylor

First, I'm suprised that you struggle with the definition of 'core values' and yet you're able to form such a conclusive opinion about them.

Anyway, a definition: "attitudes and beliefs thought to uniquely pattern a culture."

So would you encourage children from an ethnic background to adopt the core values of their parents? Or would your predilection for forced repatriation make these classes redundant?

Still interested to know what your core values are .

lozgti

Think they need to start with step one.The right to cane little gits and arrest any parents who come in to complain.

And bring back National Service.

unclebuck

New Labour are pretending that they don't know what they are either and that a 'discussion' is required to establish what we want them to be. However we all know what the outcomes of these 'conversations' traditionally are with New Labour and that they will impose their values on us no matter what the general public might think or want.

JTaylor

So you're concerned that New Labour will use these classes as an excersise in indoctrination, which I understand. Would you support the teaching of British core values in principle and if so, what would they be?

Ben v7

I do find this all a bit of a joke really... just going to be more propaganda about how 'tolerance', 'diversity' and 'multi-culturalism' is what makes us British - makes sense to start brainwashing people as early as possible I suppose. We had our own independent cultural identity at one point... before it was done away with.

In my mind British stands for honour, integrity, respect for law, order, other people and institutions - going to take more than this to restore that.

Reality

British Core values.

Invade countries, rape them of their natural resources, Grant them independence when;

a. The resources run out
b. The locals start killing too many ex-pats.

Was core values during the empire - Blair seems to be taking us back there !

unclebuck

As I thought I already explained - I am against the classroom being used for political indoctrination purposes of any kind. This is an area where people need to form their own opinions, not be taught what to think by corrupt agenda driven government.

The idea is clearly to churn out Labour voting robots by the score.

I would imagine these classes will go something like this:

“Ok, children repeat after me”
“Nice Tony is our Saviour"
"He loves us and wants to help us all be better”
“We must give everything we like to those who want it”
"Winning is bad because it makes people who don't win sad"
“Daddy is bad because he drives a dangerous fast car.”
"If daddy loves another daddy or mummy loves another mummy that's very good."
“Islams are good and Muslims are our friends. We must never, never, offend them and always do what they say"
"Christmas and Easter are bad."
“St George was bad and so is that nasty flag with the red cross on it”

on and on....

JTaylor

As much as I enjoy our exchanges UB, I'm always frustrated by your inability to answer simple questions. I'll repeat them:

a) Would you encourage children from an ethnic background to adopt the core values of their parents?

b) What are YOUR core British values?

unclebuck

Being able to participate on forums such as this without the fear of being persecuted by **** style thought police.

That's pretty damn British imo.

JTaylor

I'm simply trying to unearth some substance UB; you know, a tangible belief system that offers a real alternative to our current government. So far, in other conversations and when really pushed, you've only managed to offer up the election of the BNP (MacBeth) as a solution.

Anyway; Paxman style and for effect, I'll repeat just one of the above questions:

Would you encourage children from an ethnic background to adopt the core values of their parents?

OllyK

Yes, as long as they adopted the core British values when they came to this country

JTaylor

How do you think we might facilitate that Olly?

OllyK

Seriously? It's too late to do it in reasonable manner IMO.

What we should do going forward is make sure that anybody wanting to come and live in the UK can speak, read and write English to a reasonable standard - I don't necessarily mean to GCSE, but enough to get by on and should commit to attending lessons to help them improve (don't get me started on the white native chav kids). Likewise having classes about British history and communicating some of the traditions as well as current laws wouldn't be a bad thing either, would it?

Reality

We're either multi-cultural or we're not.

There's no middle ground.

We are a Multi-Cultural society and we shouldn't be telling anyone in it what their values should be !

JTaylor

No it wouldn't, I agree. However, I'd still defend the right of anyone in this country to support Pakistan in the cricket, have dread locks, wear a burka or support the BNP. I'd also defend each citizen's right to question any of these practices.

unclebuck

If we are talking 2nd Generation British subjects and their parents had been correctly assimilated into british culture then yes.

The trouble is with the 'multi cultural utopia' that New Labour has tried to artificially create we have a whole new type of economic migrant settling here with no interest in adopting British values, language or any thing else. They are purely here to plunder whatever they can and exploit our laws and customs for their own ends. It's a construct built by idiots that has gone wildly wrong and they can't stop or control it.

lozgti

Is there anywhere that is not too keen on being multi cultural? Just wondering

AudiLover

Arsenal fans is the best example to show that multiculturalism does work

Reality

Far too often you post a reply that seems to be in response to a different thread

JTaylor

Thanks for answering UB. What tools do you think the government have at their disposal to "correctly assimilate" immigrants? And what core values would a "correctly assimilated" immigrant hold. Additionally, how does this sit with your belief in forced repatriation? Would it only be non-assimilated immigrants that you would repatriated?

unclebuck

Judging by the current mess, none. The whole 'experiment' is clearly out of control.
The same as a native British person obviously.
Yes.

JTaylor

Although, if we can get away from the idea that classes would be a NL indoctrination excersise, the initiative outlined in the link would be a move in the right direction, surely?

What are these values in your eyes UB? How would you test for "assimilation"?

Reality

That's simple - If they're still black after the process then they're sent home .