OllyK

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4983532.stm
So, apart from the government, who didn't already suspect this was the case?

SJ_Skyline

A 5.56mm costs less than 20p (and I bet you can get a bulk discount!)

brumdaisy

"When asked what would help them stop committing crime, 55% of the 86 young men who took part said getting a job"

Hmmmm yes this is why they got a job in the first place instead of starting a life of crime

used to have a lot of sympathy with people who end up in this situation but now I just think, you had choices now deal with it. Why should tax payers pay for the rehabilitation of people who, on the whole, choose to commit crime?

National Service thats the way

OllyK

Indeed it's, provide everything on a platter for me and I'll stop being a criminal.

I can imagine however, if you did give them a council house and arranged a job for them, they soon get bored of having to actually work for a living and would revert to crime. If they had the determination to stick at a job, they'd have found one for themself in the first place.

OllyK

A Chav cull - maybe we should just dish out basball bats and have March through August declared as open season on Burberry?

brumdaisy

Exactly, a lot of people who end up commiting crime do so because a regular job doesnt pay enough (for the coke/crack/heroin) so they go to prison, get released nothing has changed except they have even less chance of ever getting a decent paid job.

People just dont want to work for it

Christ I sound like my Dad

GC8

7.62x39 cost pennies each (CZ)..... and theyre better than .223 rabbit gun round.

The Zohan

Again there is no responsibility for their actions.
They had a choice to commit a crime in the first place
They have a choice as to whether to do drugs in the first place and each and every time
They have a choice as to who they hang around with
They had choices at school whether to work, skive and/or get results or not.

However once they have made all the bad choices the answer is not to punish them, they should then not be put into prison as a result of their actions that they knew full well could lead them there.
They should get jobs, housing and all the help they need etc but have not earned them like others have to.

about time prison was a punishment as it should be. A deterrant.
Hard labour, education for all and sentances increased for those that still want to be idiots. No parole or time off for good behaviour.

Prison is about getting scum put away from the decent people as well.

SJ_Skyline

70,000 prisoners costing about £35,000 p.a. is £2.45Bn p.a.

On the other hand, we have a one-off cost of £14,000 on ammo. No need to spend more money importing AKs to fire the cheaper 7.62 rounds

danwrx1980

You wouldn't want to use 5.56 its far too messy!!
9mm would do the job much better, unless you were planning on doing it from a rooftop somewhere then you'd want 7.62!!!!!!!!!!!

If you're gonna do a job do it right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OllyK

There are plenty of SLRs around still, they fire 7.62.

Personally I suggest we feed them to the various carnivors in the zoos. No cost involved in the initial death and no body to worry about burying / cremating, all round cheaper solution.

brihoppy

its all just so infuriating though isnt it...?!

how many times has it been said that prison is just no deterrent and rehabilitation doesnt generally work...?!

prison should be a place people DONT want to go back to...get rid of all the welfare facilities, rehabilitation and much of the parole service and we could afford to build more prisons where the scum should be locked up 23 hours a day...no tv, internet, education or sports facilities...maybe an hour or 2 a day for exercise and thats it...

it makes my blood boil that there are prisoners living better lives inside than a hell of alot of decent, law abiding citizens...

transgress the human rights of another, forfeit your own...

**** the lefty pc do-gooders...

Leslie

I think a public birching would focus a few minds!

Les

The Zohan

Problem with SLR's is the mag capacity is only 30 max it is also only semi auto (UK spec) unless you mod. It would jump about like a bitch fully auto, so assuming semi auto - there may be users with finger RSI's from all that trigger action, But there is light at the end of the tunnel - do not forget the GPMG is belt fed and can manage 800rpm - 1500 if in SF mode (figs from memory mind but close enough for discussion).

brumdaisy

its just so difficult to decide

chav cull (argue about the guns between yourselves - Im a girl so as long as they're pink...)

or

public birching (now dvds of that to the right audience could actually raise a few quid....)