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Old 25 April 2006, 10:22 PM
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Can someone settle a debate? Are the baddies in Blade Runner clones or androids? I think they're andriods but someone at my archery club thinks they are clones. I sent him a link to the IMDb which supports my case, and he sent something saying it's clones. Is there a difinitive source of info to settle this? I know it's based on a book (Do androids dream of electric sleep) but need something refering to the film to be concusive..

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Old 25 April 2006, 10:24 PM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Replicant
Old 25 April 2006, 10:25 PM
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known as REPLICANTS neither clone nor andriod Afaik.
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They're replicants. They are manufactured human beings, organic entities, but not clones. They are designed artefacts and lack certain human characteristics such as empathy. They also have a built-in short lifespan and no childhood, which a clone would have. In my opinion they are androids, but not of the robotic type.
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I know they are termed Replicants, but are they Human (clones) or Machanical (androids) or may be a mix?

Found this form web site. It's the "crawl" from the beging of the film..

Early in the 21st Century, THE TYRELL

CORPORATION advanced Robot evolution

into the NEXUS phase — a being virtually

identical to a human — known as a Replicant.

The NEXUS 6 Replicants were superior

in strength and agility, and at least equal

in intelligence, to the genetic engineers

who created them.

Replicants were used Off-world as

slave labor, in the hazardous exploration and

colonization of other planets.

After a bloody mutiny by a NEXUS 6

combat team in an Off-world colony,

Replicants were declared illegal

on earth — under penalty of death.

Special police squads — BLADE RUNNER

UNITS — had orders to shoot to kill, upon

detection, any trespassing Replicant.

This was not called execution.

It was called retirement.



LOS ANGELES
NOVEMBER, 2019

From the use of the word "Robot" I'm lead to the conculsion that they are machanical in the main and not clones..
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Originally Posted by Nimbus
I know they are termed Replicants, but are they Human (clones) or Machanical (androids) or may be a mix?

Found this form web site. It's the "crawl" from the beging of the film..

Early in the 21st Century, THE TYRELL

CORPORATION advanced Robot evolution

into the NEXUS phase — a being virtually

identical to a human — known as a Replicant.

The NEXUS 6 Replicants were superior

in strength and agility, and at least equal

in intelligence, to the genetic engineers

who created them.

Replicants were used Off-world as

slave labor, in the hazardous exploration and

colonization of other planets.

After a bloody mutiny by a NEXUS 6

combat team in an Off-world colony,

Replicants were declared illegal

on earth — under penalty of death.

Special police squads — BLADE RUNNER

UNITS — had orders to shoot to kill, upon

detection, any trespassing Replicant.

This was not called execution.

It was called retirement.



LOS ANGELES
NOVEMBER, 2019

From the use of the word "Robot" I'm lead to the conculsion that they are machanical in the main and not clones..
The clue is in:

the genetic engineers who created them.
Genetic engineers are not mechanical engineers. A robot, strictly, is an artificial human, not necessarily made of metal and plastic.

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Old 25 April 2006, 10:42 PM
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True, but not necessarily a clone either, since a clone, buy it's very nature is an exact copy of a human.

So, neither one nor the other, which means we are both right and wrong..
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Originally Posted by Nimbus
True, but not necessarily a clone either, since a clone, buy it's very nature is an exact copy of a human.

So, neither one nor the other, which means we are both right and wrong..
If you read my post properly, I agree with you. They can't be clones because they would have to be grown like real human beings, with parents, childhoods etc. They're programmed, genetically engineered beings.
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It's getting too late for me to read properly..
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The real arguement (which still hasn't been concluded between Harrison Ford and Ridley Scot) is whether or not Decker was a replicant.......

Dan
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Well Scott says he's a replicant and it was his film, his vision, so I'd say Deckard was a replicant.

Class film

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Deckard?

Harrison Ford and Ridley Scott have nothing to do with it. The story wasn't written by them and P.K.D. was perfectly clear about it.

Elvis nicked my shopping trolley the other day, but Bruce Lee picked him off from the grassy knoll.
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Was watching a recent inteview with HF & he said that he had insisted (& had it agreed by RS) that at least one of the main cast was human. Slightly criptic but suggests that HF character was human.

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http://www.philipkdick.com/works_novels_androids.html
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Originally Posted by RoShamBo
Was watching a recent inteview with HF & he said that he had insisted (& had it agreed by RS) that at least one of the main cast was human. Slightly criptic but suggests that HF character was human.

R.
you saw that too

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Old 26 April 2006, 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by ScoobyDoo555
you saw that too

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&.......Indiana Jones is deffo coming back....cool !
Old 26 April 2006, 09:14 AM
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<whispers> it is just a film and not real.
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i'd suggest they are andoids - they all have incept dates and built in life spans. they're referred to as 'model' versions. rachel asks if deckard can tell the difference between real/fake.

also the pkd book is "do androids dream of electric sheep?".

and deckard is a replicant, it's just he and rachel don't have termination dates.
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And the chinese guy says "I make your eyes", which sounds like they're assembled from bits.
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Originally Posted by ChefDude

and deckard is a replicant, it's just he and rachel don't have termination dates.
This is what I believe was the reasons for fiddling about with the film so much when the directors cut came out. When the foreign looking bloke gives Deckard the Oragami Unicorn it implies he has seen Deckards dreams (the Unicorn sequence was cut form the original film and used in Legend IIRC)

I actually prefer the original to the directors cut.

Anyone got the last words of the Reutger Haur (sp) character.
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''I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched sea beams glitter in the darkness at Tan Hauser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time like tears in rain. Time to die''.

Something like that iirc?
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