ADP

Hi all

I took a sickee on Tuesday for a job interview........I have a nasty feeling someone has read my work email(yes I know I shouldnt have used it) as while I was off someone had to access my emails / quotes at work - and I reckon they may have read it....................The reason I say this is as the md said he wanted to catch up with me tomorrow - all very casually, but I wonder if it is something more sinister.

So is he likely to boot me out?

davegtt

If he said he wanted to catch up with you theres a good chance you might get a ticking off for pulling a sickie but you never know, he might end up asking why you want to leave and offer you more cash to stay

ADP

lol Im in a sales job, Im fairly new but doing pretty well - though I do want to get out(cant be bothered going into it) I have quite a few big deals in the wings so it would be a bit daft to get rid of me...........but I dunno

scarey

if you get cuaght out offer to take the day out of your holiday entitlement

paulr

Taking a sickie and then being found out as lying is a disciplinary offence.The trick is dont get found out.

Alas

I'd sack you.

mart360

Can be seen two ways...

i had a guy in for interview once, he was on redundancy notice, so he was entitled to go for interviews,....

we did the formal bit, and then we went for a coffee,, i asked him what his boss thought of him coming for an interview with our company...


his answer ive pulled a sickie...!!!

he didnt get the job, we took it as if he pulled a sickie if he had a legit reason to be at an interview, how reliable would he be if he was working for us perminantly



Mart

ZYRUSS

i dont think is gross misconductm therefore if its not, you need to be warned first off about it, but it could be classed as a theft of time, and theft is gross misconduct.....

davyboy

To read an employees email is also a sackable offence I would have thought!

Spoon

I doubt very much if he used the works email address, as he states.

scarey

under uk privacy laws you have to ask the employee's permission, even if it is on a work computer and a work email

HR have had me running around in circles before following requests from manger's who suspecct their staff are using the web for non-appropriate means

StickyMicky

i nearly flunked an interview, when i told them i had gave a crap excuse to my current boss, so i could go to the interview i was at

NMUK
quite a hard job to get into TBH

hades

Taking a sickie is no more or less an offence because you're going for an interview, it just might be easier to prove! It could go one of many ways - if your firm know and the like you, they might be interested to learn why you want to go elsewhere and if they can change things so you want to stay. Disciplinary action is the other end of the scale; I'd have thought it's marginal whether they could try to describe this as gross misconduct and therefore be instantly dismissable.

AllanB

It may also be an offence to use the companies email system for non work related use depandant on the company policy and lying about a sick day is definitley misconduct so whilst a sacking would be possible I'd think it unlikely. However if you are being paid for that sick day that could be a different matter as it could be taken as fraud which is gross miscounduct so would be a sackable offence.

However, as I work in IT sales I know its likely if you are going to a competitor its not likely they'll want to risk thier business by having you around when you may not appear to be trust worthy.

There are plenty of good people out there so you'd need to be something exceptional to not be viewed ina less than favourable light.


AllanB

Suresh

Me too. If you need a day free for an interview do it on your own time . It's a question of integrity.


Suresh

P.S. Did you get the job?

MikeCardiff

iTrader: (2)

Have to say I'm against people taking sickies when they arent.

Think of it this way - you take a day off when there is nothing wrong with you, and the employer still has to pay you a days wages and gets nothing in return.

Would you be happy to work a day for them and not get paid anything for it ? - principal is the same.

If you need a day off for something personal, book it out of your leave.

ADP

no I didnt even get it - it came up last minute and I dont think they would have given me holiday at such short notice - sometimes you take these decisions IF you think its in YOUR best interests........in this case I did - I have another interview soon which I have taken holiday for as I had more notice

I may just be being paranoid on this! they may not have seen anything

WRX_Dazza

morally, i think you are taking the p1ss by taking a sicky and going to an interview.

i wouldn't have ever done that in the past.

being found out, also spoils it for other staff when they are legitamitly sick!!

even if i was sick, i used to feel really guilty.

now i work from home, so its like being sick every day

Jay_bee

iTrader: (1)

I work in recruitment and we would never recommend any of our candidates to pull a sickie to attend an interview for 2 reasons, 1) it can cause trouble if you get rumbled by your current employer (as you may now be experiencing)and the situation can be even worse if you dont get the job! and 2) If the prospective employer finds out, it can be taken as having a lack of integrity (just to point out, Im not saying thats right btw, but thats just some peoples perception) - which I think Mart has proved the point of. Always do it outside of work - before or after or book half or a days holiday.

As for being sacked for it, I would find that very unlikely in this day age with all the employment law BS and legislation protecting the employee's rights rather than the employers. That said, during the first 12 months of employment, you can be given your notice (1 week min) without them giving a reason.

Fingers crossed you get the job you want mate, and if not, get in touch

JB

Ray_li

I've always taken the day off work so I can have the interview during work hours.

Not sure about ask for an interview after work because the prospective employer would have to do over time which I wouldnt like if I was interviewing somebody.

Jay_bee

iTrader: (1)

Just depends on how good difficult the candidates are to find and how good they are, if for example I had a chartered bridge engineer with 5+ years experience, Id be pretty certain that most clients would try to fit in with what the candidate could do, if however it was 11K a year customer service bod, i wouldnt dream of asking a client if they would consider an out of hours interview interview although I may ask whats the very latest they could do. Most clients dont find it offensive

Ray_li

How about a Dersign Engineer with 3 years experience that surfs scoobynet all day long?

YHM

Jay_bee

iTrader: (1)

Just depends what you design

Big Daz

Or how about a Design Engineer with 7 years experience that surfs Scoobynet about half the day

Daz

Jay_bee

iTrader: (1)

LOL

PM me if yer looking

Ray_li

Nobody on SN will give us a job

Big Daz

Hey, I am twice as productive as you
(dont mention the fact that the other half of the day is on other bbs's )

Anyway SN is a knowledge database so its kind of legitimate

Edited Cos I just compared our post counts - knowing smile

Ray_li

I've finished my work for today

Big Daz

Well done - Surf away , I finish for the day in 35mins, not that I am counting or anything

Daz

SupaMiniCupa

OT-ish but isn't it worth sticking around to get your commission off these deals and then leaving?

I used to calculate peoples commission and it used to make me chuckle at the money people missed out on through leaving.

(Although if you're constantly doing well then its par for the course I suppose)