Friggin BT
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Friggin BT
Our email & internet has been down since last Thursday am, only just back on. It just isn't good enough, our business relies on our website and email enquires. Hate to think what damage this has done
Wonder what compensation they will offer
Also not been able to waste a single minute on SN
chop
Wonder what compensation they will offer
Also not been able to waste a single minute on SN
chop
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How do you connect to the internet? If you're using ADSL and your internet connection is vital to your business, then you're using the wrong technology.
If you absolutely can't be disconnected from t'internet you need a leased line which is consideably more money but at least uptime is guaranteed.
You pays your money etc etc.
If you absolutely can't be disconnected from t'internet you need a leased line which is consideably more money but at least uptime is guaranteed.
You pays your money etc etc.
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Originally Posted by NotoriousREV
How do you connect to the internet? If you're using ADSL and your internet connection is vital to your business, then you're using the wrong technology.
If you absolutely can't be disconnected from t'internet you need a leased line which is consideably more money but at least uptime is guaranteed.
You pays your money etc etc.
If you absolutely can't be disconnected from t'internet you need a leased line which is consideably more money but at least uptime is guaranteed.
You pays your money etc etc.
Appreciate input though
Chop
#4
In that case, you could get some compensation. We had a similar problem with one of our Telco's. We told them it could have cost us £100k in business and they gave us £90k which was far more than the profit we would have made.
Knowing BT though, they'll give you nothing but excuses.
Maybe get an ADSL line as a cheap back up to your leased line?
Knowing BT though, they'll give you nothing but excuses.
Maybe get an ADSL line as a cheap back up to your leased line?
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Originally Posted by chopper.
Our email & internet has been down since last Thursday am, only just back on. It just isn't good enough, our business relies on our website and email enquires. Hate to think what damage this has done
Wonder what compensation they will offer
Also not been able to waste a single minute on SN
chop
Wonder what compensation they will offer
Also not been able to waste a single minute on SN
chop
you'll find that you are almost certainly entitled to compensation for business disruption if it's serious enough. most people just don't bother to pursue it. check your terms & conditions of supply carefully, find out the BT account manager responsible for your custom and write (snail, not email) to him/her using registered post, cc'ing to the account manager's divisional MD. make sure you also send it for the P&C attention of BT group's CEO ben verwaayen, who you can reach at BT centre, 81 newgate street, london ec1a 7aj. he's known to be hot on customer complaints that reach his desk.
good luck.
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We have a leased line with, umm BT/Demon/Pipex (can't recall who to be honest), but if it goes down for more than 30 mins then we get reimbursed as we're losing business due to it.
We do have backup mail, ftp and web servers, so if the main servers based in the office cannot be contacted, we just switch over.
We do have backup mail, ftp and web servers, so if the main servers based in the office cannot be contacted, we just switch over.
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Originally Posted by Holy Ghost
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you'll find that you are almost certainly entitled to compensation for business disruption if it's serious enough. most people just don't bother to pursue it. check your terms & conditions of supply carefully, find out the BT account manager responsible for your custom and write (snail, not email) to him/her using registered post, cc'ing to the account manager's divisional MD. make sure you also send it for the P&C attention of BT group's CEO ben verwaayen, who you can reach at BT centre, 81 newgate street, london ec1a 7aj. he's known to be hot on customer complaints that reach his desk.
good luck.
you'll find that you are almost certainly entitled to compensation for business disruption if it's serious enough. most people just don't bother to pursue it. check your terms & conditions of supply carefully, find out the BT account manager responsible for your custom and write (snail, not email) to him/her using registered post, cc'ing to the account manager's divisional MD. make sure you also send it for the P&C attention of BT group's CEO ben verwaayen, who you can reach at BT centre, 81 newgate street, london ec1a 7aj. he's known to be hot on customer complaints that reach his desk.
good luck.
I'm sure we will be pursuing people over this, hard to work out the actual loss, but it will be a fair few thousand.
calmed down now anyway, unfortunately these things happen.
chop
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Originally Posted by Holy Ghost
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you'll find that you are almost certainly entitled to compensation for business disruption if it's serious enough. most people just don't bother to pursue it. check your terms & conditions of supply carefully, find out the BT account manager responsible for your custom and write (snail, not email) to him/her using registered post, cc'ing to the account manager's divisional MD. make sure you also send it for the P&C attention of BT group's CEO ben verwaayen, who you can reach at BT centre, 81 newgate street, london ec1a 7aj. he's known to be hot on customer complaints that reach his desk.
good luck.
you'll find that you are almost certainly entitled to compensation for business disruption if it's serious enough. most people just don't bother to pursue it. check your terms & conditions of supply carefully, find out the BT account manager responsible for your custom and write (snail, not email) to him/her using registered post, cc'ing to the account manager's divisional MD. make sure you also send it for the P&C attention of BT group's CEO ben verwaayen, who you can reach at BT centre, 81 newgate street, london ec1a 7aj. he's known to be hot on customer complaints that reach his desk.
good luck.
imagine how many people address their complaint to the man at the top, he'd never get any work done if he dealt with them all !!
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Got a little cash to spend? Then.....
Get your site, e-mail servers, database servers (and whatever else) hosted as 'Co-located' in an ISP's data centre somewhere.
Then sort out secure access into your colo via a decent firewall (Cisco PIX, WatchGuard etc) using a point to point VPN. (managed firewalls in data centres and companies HQ's are great for this)
Then to backup your access get a SDSL line installed that you can use in case the leased line goes TU. (there's probably more cost effective solutions in the way of redundancy for leased lines... but that's not my bag)
The ISP should guarantee the uptime of your service, which is normally 99%. Even if a data centre goes down, it'll only be for hours and not days.
Food for thought?
J.
Get your site, e-mail servers, database servers (and whatever else) hosted as 'Co-located' in an ISP's data centre somewhere.
Then sort out secure access into your colo via a decent firewall (Cisco PIX, WatchGuard etc) using a point to point VPN. (managed firewalls in data centres and companies HQ's are great for this)
Then to backup your access get a SDSL line installed that you can use in case the leased line goes TU. (there's probably more cost effective solutions in the way of redundancy for leased lines... but that's not my bag)
The ISP should guarantee the uptime of your service, which is normally 99%. Even if a data centre goes down, it'll only be for hours and not days.
Food for thought?
J.
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Simple fact is if you're running your own show on a single leased line it clearly isnt vital. Why after 4/5 days outage had you not invoked your full DR plan....you do have a DR plan for your business dont you ??
You may indeed get some rental back for that outage, I would be gobsmacked if you got any consequential loss.
You may indeed get some rental back for that outage, I would be gobsmacked if you got any consequential loss.
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