English no longer recognised!!!
08 March 2006, 07:25 PM
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English no longer recognised!!!
Another way of trying to strip the English of identity.
Roll on 23rd April!!
"Census to gauge national identity
The census monitors age, ethnic diversity, and housing demand
The national Census is to include a question on national identity so people can say if they consider themselves Welsh, Scottish, Irish or British.
Census co-ordinator Joy Dobbs announced the Office of National Statistics (ONS) had decided to respond to a "strong demand... particularly from the Welsh".
The ONS received 2,000 submissions from central and local government, academia, business and members of the public.
The 2011 survey may also ask people their earnings and preferred language.
A possible question on earnings will ask which of a series of income brackets people fall into and to indicate, from a list of options, how they earn it.
Local authorities asked for a topic on languages to be included as many were now dealing with "a range of communities speaking a wide number of languages".
Questions on marital status are being extended so there is a series of equivalent ones on civil partnerships.
Ethnic diversity
But the £300m poll for England and Wales will not ask about sexual orientation, following concerns about the quality and accuracy of responses, given the forms are addressed to whole households.
Questions asking whether people live in a tower block or have a bath, shower or toilet at home are being replaced by more relevant enquiries about their quality of housing.
The census monitors population age, ethnic diversity, household size and housing demand.
It is used to decide how to allocate local authority cash and where to site schools, old people's homes, shops and neighbourhood renewal programmes."
Roll on 23rd April!!
"Census to gauge national identity
The census monitors age, ethnic diversity, and housing demand
The national Census is to include a question on national identity so people can say if they consider themselves Welsh, Scottish, Irish or British.
Census co-ordinator Joy Dobbs announced the Office of National Statistics (ONS) had decided to respond to a "strong demand... particularly from the Welsh".
The ONS received 2,000 submissions from central and local government, academia, business and members of the public.
The 2011 survey may also ask people their earnings and preferred language.
A possible question on earnings will ask which of a series of income brackets people fall into and to indicate, from a list of options, how they earn it.
Local authorities asked for a topic on languages to be included as many were now dealing with "a range of communities speaking a wide number of languages".
Questions on marital status are being extended so there is a series of equivalent ones on civil partnerships.
Ethnic diversity
But the £300m poll for England and Wales will not ask about sexual orientation, following concerns about the quality and accuracy of responses, given the forms are addressed to whole households.
Questions asking whether people live in a tower block or have a bath, shower or toilet at home are being replaced by more relevant enquiries about their quality of housing.
The census monitors population age, ethnic diversity, household size and housing demand.
It is used to decide how to allocate local authority cash and where to site schools, old people's homes, shops and neighbourhood renewal programmes."
08 March 2006, 07:30 PM
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£300 million..what a fecking waste of money.
mmm lets see..
so mr welshman how do you class yourself?
urrr..well i'm welsh you see
so mr scotsman how do you class yourself?
aye scottish and proud of it..**** being british
so mr irishman how do you class yourself?
is this a trick question...ok no..well i am irish.
so mr random englishperson..how do you class yourself?
is there not a catergory for english?? ok well I am a brummie..fair enough?
fairly pointless survey/census IMHO...
mmm lets see..
so mr welshman how do you class yourself?
urrr..well i'm welsh you see
so mr scotsman how do you class yourself?
aye scottish and proud of it..**** being british
so mr irishman how do you class yourself?
is this a trick question...ok no..well i am irish.
so mr random englishperson..how do you class yourself?
is there not a catergory for english?? ok well I am a brummie..fair enough?
fairly pointless survey/census IMHO...
08 March 2006, 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by AudiLover
English people are British. What more do you want.
Pretty soon you'll find British as the international language!!
08 March 2006, 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by bootsy
i'm English and i live in England and i speak English
When you go on holiday and people ask what nationality you are do you say english or british?
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08 March 2006, 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by AudiLover
And yet out government has a say about what goes on in BRITAIN.....
When you go on holiday and people ask what nationality you are do you say english or british?
When you go on holiday and people ask what nationality you are do you say english or british?
09 March 2006, 12:12 AM
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Census are necessary, every country has one so let's not talk rubbish about waste of money etc.
If you want an "English" box to tick, don't complete that section and write the word "English" instead. This is how the Welsh have forced that option to be included. Do the same instead of whinging !
If you want an "English" box to tick, don't complete that section and write the word "English" instead. This is how the Welsh have forced that option to be included. Do the same instead of whinging !
09 March 2006, 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by 3times
British is not a nationality. English is!
09 March 2006, 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Robbie200
Sorry but English isn't a nationality. This country is officially the UK (check your passport if you don't believe me).
Utter tosh mate, since when has England not been a nation?
09 March 2006, 08:19 AM
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Since it didn't have its own head of State (1603) and its own Parliament (1707).
The Queen as head of State is monarch of the UK and Commonwealth. The Parliament at Westminster is the UK Parliament.
The Queen as head of State is monarch of the UK and Commonwealth. The Parliament at Westminster is the UK Parliament.
09 March 2006, 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Robbie200
Sorry but English isn't a nationality. This country is officially the UK (check your passport if you don't believe me).
So by the same argument, Scottish annd Welsh aren't nationalities either. Irish does exist as a separate nationality as there is a separate country (Eire).
09 March 2006, 11:20 AM
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Well I be Scottish. But until Scotland has our own Parliment that is independant of Westminister, officially we're British. The same with Wales, England (bit more obvious that one) and N.I. too. Part of the problem I think, which I have experienced, is actually being asked where about is Scotland in England by ignorant foriegners.
Also, one of my mates was visiting a friend of his in Chicago and was asked where/when he learned to speak their language.
ewan
Also, one of my mates was visiting a friend of his in Chicago and was asked where/when he learned to speak their language.
ewan
09 March 2006, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ewanrw
Also, one of my mates was visiting a friend of his in Chicago and was asked where/when he learned to speak their language.
09 March 2006, 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by TonyG
Which includes England, Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland. Look on any atlas, and I think you'll find that the United Kingdom covers all of the above.
So by the same argument, Scottish annd Welsh aren't nationalities either. Irish does exist as a separate nationality as there is a separate country (Eire).
So by the same argument, Scottish annd Welsh aren't nationalities either. Irish does exist as a separate nationality as there is a separate country (Eire).
Eire is indeed a separate country.
09 March 2006, 08:01 PM
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plagarised from a google search.....
What is the difference between the United Kingdom, Great Britain, and England?
The United Kingdom is a country that consists of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. In fact, the official name of the country is "United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland."
Great Britain is the name of the island northwest of France and east of Ireland that consists of three somewhat autonomous regions: England, Wales and Scotland.
Therefore, England is part of Great Britain, which is part of the United Kingdom. The U.K. includes England, Wales, Scotland, and Northern Ireland. England, Wales, Scotland, and Northern Ireland are not countries but the United Kingdom is. The remaining portion of the island of Ireland (that which is not the U.K.'s Northern Ireland) is an independent country called the Republic of Ireland (Eire).
What is the difference between the United Kingdom, Great Britain, and England?
The United Kingdom is a country that consists of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. In fact, the official name of the country is "United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland."
Great Britain is the name of the island northwest of France and east of Ireland that consists of three somewhat autonomous regions: England, Wales and Scotland.
Therefore, England is part of Great Britain, which is part of the United Kingdom. The U.K. includes England, Wales, Scotland, and Northern Ireland. England, Wales, Scotland, and Northern Ireland are not countries but the United Kingdom is. The remaining portion of the island of Ireland (that which is not the U.K.'s Northern Ireland) is an independent country called the Republic of Ireland (Eire).
09 March 2006, 08:17 PM
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well said that man.we are all part of the same country. but i'm still English first but british/european second because i dont care what printed in my passport
09 March 2006, 09:26 PM
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ENGLISH and any form i have to fill out my nationality on gets it written clearly on it.. Every time
as said above i'm English, i live in England and speak English.
09 March 2006, 09:44 PM
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glad to see i'm not the only one proud to be English
anyone fly the george cross and not just for the football.i fly mine all the time .i've been told by many a boss that cant fly my flag because it mit insult
someone .lol
anyone fly the george cross and not just for the football.i fly mine all the time .i've been told by many a boss that cant fly my flag because it mit insult
someone .lol
09 March 2006, 10:23 PM
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Quite agree - if you're English then say you are and be proud of it.
But.........................
Please tell the bloody newscasters tonight that it will not be "British Fans" that the "British Police" will be helping the Germans with this summer in the World Cup
1. The Tartan Army just get pissed and have a good time without trouble.
2. We did'nt bloody qualify again
But.........................
Please tell the bloody newscasters tonight that it will not be "British Fans" that the "British Police" will be helping the Germans with this summer in the World Cup
1. The Tartan Army just get pissed and have a good time without trouble.
2. We did'nt bloody qualify again
10 March 2006, 08:32 AM
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If anyone is ever told that they're not English or that they must complete a form asking for their nationality but has no option to select "English", simply accuse the asker of breaching your human rights. Hey presto, you'll either get your own way, or a nice cash payout!
See - all those immigrants and travellers constantly harping on about their human rights might have helped us out after all!
See - all those immigrants and travellers constantly harping on about their human rights might have helped us out after all!
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