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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4709258.stm

Fantastic.

Oldfella

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Nanny state

matty01

smoke free

logiclee

Excellent news.

2000TLondon

Bullsh1t It won't last.

SlimJ_2005

Great news, will be able to go out and not come home smelling like an ashtray has been tipped over my head!

Iwan

Hopefully this will upset some of the people who clamoured to remove my legal right to own a handgun.

2000TLondon

Eh?

Iwan

It was a joke, about another blanket 'nanny state' ban.

SupaMiniCupa

Does a nightclub/gig that you pay to get into fall into the 'pub' or 'club' category?

I'm guessing 'pub' but worth checking...

JackClark

Loopholes will be found. Can you smoke in off licences? And can you drink your purchaces in store? Are hotels included? And how many rooms do you need to be classed as a hotel.

2000TLondon

Aha!


This whole thing is a complete load of media hype. Second hand smoke is b0ll0cks! Try walking along a pavement in London! The sh1te pumped out by buses and the soot and fumes on the tube is far worse than second hand smoke.

I understand not smoking in restaurants, but pubs and clubs will lose lots of money from this! I think better ventilation will be a better solution all round.

douglasb

If smoking is banned in both pubs and clubs, does it make any difference?

I think that although the media have concentrated on the ban affecting pubs and clubs, it actually applies to any enclosed public space (or something like that). I'm guessing that if tickets to the gig/nightclub are offered to the general public and there is a roof on the premises, there won't be any smoking going on inside.

Iwan

Indeed, lots of offices and other workplaces will be affected by this too.

Iwan

Well I know it affects me, if I go to my parents house (they both smoke) for more than about 30 mins I get tightness in my chest and I have a cough for about 2 days afterwards. It's basically why I choose not to go out to pubs/clubs much these days. maybe I'm more sensitive to it than some people, I dunno really.

budgie55

As an ex smoker I can safely say .... thank f** the governments done something right for a change!!

Lets hope the house of lords sees through the national identity card bull and throws it out on its ****.

mark1234

Thank goodness. You'd complain if someone sat next to you farting all evening.. health aside, it's about the same - disgusting! Good riddance

HankScorpio

Erm... no.
Off licence.

As in - Licensed to sell alcohol for consumption "off" the premises.

Tim-Grove

Should have banned tobacco all together if they were really against smoking.

Oh wait, it’s the £9.3bn in revenue they collect compared to the £1.5bn they spend in smoking related diseases, nice little profit there.

Dracoro

Looking at the vote section (over 12k votes polled so far) of the news item, it appears 80% favour the total ban, 11% a partial one and 9% no change. Whether you like it or not, the will of the people has won through. The overwhelming majority of people want it banned and thus it has been banned.

Whether this is 'right' or not is neither here nor there, it's democracy in action, the public gets what the public wants.

TopBanana

Yeeha, I hate the smell on your clothes after going out drinking as much as anything else

OllyK

So you support curtailing of civil liberties as long as it doesn't affect you personally?

OllyK

The government will see this as carte blanche to ban anything else that they see fit, next time you may not be so keen on their target.

KiwiGTI

Not to mention you can now return clothes to the shop the day after you have worn them for a night out because of no smoke smell.

Puff The Magic Wagon!

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Great

Just had a really hard cr@p pressured day & that has just cheered me up no end

Can not come soon enough IMHO

JTaylor

<Selfish mode>

So, I go to the Pub on a Sunday afternoon, order a pint of Caffereys and pull out a Montecristo no.3. Sublime.

This small pleasure ends for me in the Autumn of '07 - how disappointing!

<Selfless mode>

So, set out to go to the Pub on a Sunday afternoon, realise I can't enjoy a smoke with my beer and abandon the visit. All the other patrons don't have to endure my second hand smoke or my inane ramblings - lucky beggers!

Serious question - can you still smoke in nightclubs and at gigs. If I go to Jazz Cafe on the Barbican will I have to nip out between numbers to have a draw?

ryn004

The banned smoking pubs and clubs a year ago in malta. Well just lets say they still smoke and the police ignore it

JTaylor

You'll have to change your name to The Magic Wagon

Chris L

Secondary smoke isn't b****** - that's a ridiculous thing to say. The pollution in London isn't that bad. Goto Cairo, Bangkok or Jakarta - then you can complain about air pollution! I think you might also find more people ultimately going to pubs. There will be a downturn at first, but if pubs become nicer places to visit and spend an evening, then surely more people will go? The ban introduced in Dublin was touted as the death of pubs in Ireland, but it appears to have had the opposite effect.

Ventilation does work to a certain extent, but it has to be amzingly good (and very expensive) to work. The only place I've seen where it is totally effective is in BAT's building in London!

JamieMacdonald

Good stuff.

I don't know how you can call the right to smoke in public a civil liberty when it is so unpleasant for most of the people in your vicinity. By all means do it in your own home or away from other people but not in their face. Like stated above, I enjoy a good fart, but how would people like it if I crop dusted last nights kebab odour all over them while they were out enjoying a pint?