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12 January 2006, 01:04 AM
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Stable horse door bolted
http://newsbox.msn.co.uk/article.asp...e=windows-1252
another it will never happen again spin...
anything to deflect the real issue, she used her authority to overturn common sense
how she keeps her job i dont know,
still what do you expect these days.. nl (new lies)
Mart
another it will never happen again spin...
anything to deflect the real issue, she used her authority to overturn common sense
how she keeps her job i dont know,
still what do you expect these days.. nl (new lies)
Mart
12 January 2006, 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by mart360
how she keeps her job i dont know,
Probally end up an EU minister for this **** up, its big enough
12 January 2006, 08:01 AM
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Quote"Education Secretary Ruth Kelly faces a Commons grilling on how registered sex offenders were allowed to work in schools.
Ms Kelly must answer to MPs at education questions, with parents demanding an apology and Tories calling on her to consider her position.
Tony Blair was forced to insist she would not lose her job after it emerged around 10 people on the register were cleared to teach.
But she came under fresh pressure when Sir Michael Bichard, who headed the inquiry into the Soham killings, said he was "disappointed" new safeguards had still not been introduced.
Ms Kelly is under pressure to win over around 100 potential Labour rebels who are threatening to inflict what would be a fatal defeat on the Prime Minister.
But she is now fighting on a second front after admitting the case of Paul Reeve, who took up a job as a PE teacher despite being being on the sex offenders register, was not isolated.
Mr Reeve was cleared to work at the Hewett School, Norwich, last year, even though he received a police caution for accessing banned images of children on the internet.
The Education Secretary admitted there had been "a small number" of similar cases but refused to say how many until the review was complete.
Margaret Morrissey, spokeswoman for the National Confederation of Parent Teacher Associations, called the news "terrifying".
"Ruth Kelly should apologise for allowing people on the sex offenders register to work in our schools," she said. "She is going to have to look at her own conscience as a mother and politician over this issue." Unquote
Link - http://uk.news.yahoo.com/12012006/34...-grilling.html
What seems to be forgotten (or maybe not considered important as the rights of sex offenders) here is the safety of the kids. This is the most important thing!
I do not see how there can be any justifcation for someone on the sex offenders register to be allowed to work with children
It is not like the person is a habitual shoplifter and should they re offend, they knick a jumper from Woolies. These sex offenders have the potential to abuse childeren and are being put in a position where they have access to kids and kids are expected to trust and respect them.
Just ask yourself why would a sex offender want to work at a school and be in close contact with kids anyway. The answer is i think obvious is it not.
Where any lessons learnt from Soham?, why is it over two years later we are in this situation.
Part of 'education, education, education' must be the saftey and well being of the children. This is first and foremost.
Ms Kelly must answer to MPs at education questions, with parents demanding an apology and Tories calling on her to consider her position.
Tony Blair was forced to insist she would not lose her job after it emerged around 10 people on the register were cleared to teach.
But she came under fresh pressure when Sir Michael Bichard, who headed the inquiry into the Soham killings, said he was "disappointed" new safeguards had still not been introduced.
Ms Kelly is under pressure to win over around 100 potential Labour rebels who are threatening to inflict what would be a fatal defeat on the Prime Minister.
But she is now fighting on a second front after admitting the case of Paul Reeve, who took up a job as a PE teacher despite being being on the sex offenders register, was not isolated.
Mr Reeve was cleared to work at the Hewett School, Norwich, last year, even though he received a police caution for accessing banned images of children on the internet.
The Education Secretary admitted there had been "a small number" of similar cases but refused to say how many until the review was complete.
Margaret Morrissey, spokeswoman for the National Confederation of Parent Teacher Associations, called the news "terrifying".
"Ruth Kelly should apologise for allowing people on the sex offenders register to work in our schools," she said. "She is going to have to look at her own conscience as a mother and politician over this issue." Unquote
Link - http://uk.news.yahoo.com/12012006/34...-grilling.html
What seems to be forgotten (or maybe not considered important as the rights of sex offenders) here is the safety of the kids. This is the most important thing!
I do not see how there can be any justifcation for someone on the sex offenders register to be allowed to work with children
It is not like the person is a habitual shoplifter and should they re offend, they knick a jumper from Woolies. These sex offenders have the potential to abuse childeren and are being put in a position where they have access to kids and kids are expected to trust and respect them.
Just ask yourself why would a sex offender want to work at a school and be in close contact with kids anyway. The answer is i think obvious is it not.
Where any lessons learnt from Soham?, why is it over two years later we are in this situation.
Part of 'education, education, education' must be the saftey and well being of the children. This is first and foremost.
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12 January 2006, 08:20 AM
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As I said in the last thread, if she is responsible for putting these people into the schools then IMHO, she should be sacked, what is this bloody country coming too I mean you send your kids to school knowing they should be safe and all the time they could be a sex offenders next target
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12 January 2006, 09:09 AM
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Watched her last night on TV as well - she seems to have modelled herself completely on Bliar - the speach, the mannerisms, the failing to take responsibility for one's actions..........! (It seems the reports of human cloning to be true - at least partly-successful 
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12 January 2006, 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Wish
Saw her on the telly last night, she one ugly lesbian....... She looked like she should be on the register too... strange woman.
12 January 2006, 09:32 AM
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So even if the incompentent police forces had convicted Ian Huntley Dyke Kelly would still have given him a job.
Thank **** I haven't got any kids - I wouldn't let them loose with that dyke in charge of their well being at school
She'll be sacked - or Bliar will be out over this !
Thank **** I haven't got any kids - I wouldn't let them loose with that dyke in charge of their well being at school
She'll be sacked - or Bliar will be out over this !
12 January 2006, 09:36 AM
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ps - your title suggests that the Stable door has been bolted - not so sure of that
She doesn't seem to think there's anything wrong with giving paedo's jobs in schools - maybe she gets a kick out of it ?
She doesn't seem to think there's anything wrong with giving paedo's jobs in schools - maybe she gets a kick out of it ?
12 January 2006, 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Scoob99
As I said in the last thread, if she is responsible for putting these people into the schools then IMHO, she should be sacked, what is this bloody country coming too I mean you send your kids to school knowing they should be safe and all the time they could be a sex offenders next target
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Agreed!
Also lets not forget that the reason this has come to light is that the Police got involved and questioned her decision. This is not Kelly being proactive just reactive (the Labour way!) and trying to make a right out of her wrong.
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12 January 2006, 10:32 AM
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there is no excuse for this; how kelly and her civil service mannequins could even think for a moment that a sex offender could, under any circumstances, be allowed to teach children is indefensible and bizarre.
reading today's papers, it appears that it's not just one incident either. she has to go. and not just her, everyone one of the junior ministers and civil servants at Dfes involved in this debacle. she and they aren't fit for purpose.
i trust the press and opposition will be true to form and hound her mercilessly until the stupid opus dei cultist fruitcake has to step down.
i wonder how psl will spin his way out of this one. he's very quiet.
reading today's papers, it appears that it's not just one incident either. she has to go. and not just her, everyone one of the junior ministers and civil servants at Dfes involved in this debacle. she and they aren't fit for purpose.
i trust the press and opposition will be true to form and hound her mercilessly until the stupid opus dei cultist fruitcake has to step down.
i wonder how psl will spin his way out of this one. he's very quiet.
12 January 2006, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by mart360
how she keeps her job i dont know,
It's worth bearing in mind that the pervert she allowed to work with our children was to teach P.E. - the most traditional haunt of the 'kiddy fiddler'.
12 January 2006, 10:50 AM
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She hasn't always been a lesbian - she used to be quite normal and has four children of her own, which makes her actions all the more extraordinary.
I blame that Catholic cult Opus Dei that she is a member of. I wonder if she will be wearing the barbed cilice punishment belt when she faces her questioners in the Commons today.
I blame that Catholic cult Opus Dei that she is a member of. I wonder if she will be wearing the barbed cilice punishment belt when she faces her questioners in the Commons today.
12 January 2006, 12:49 PM
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Not only should Kelly be sacked. Blair and the goverment should resign for backing her.
They are saying we agree with her employing child offenders in education. WHAT is Blair on, cloud cuckoo land?
They are saying we agree with her employing child offenders in education. WHAT is Blair on, cloud cuckoo land?
12 January 2006, 12:56 PM
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Isn't it strange, (NOT), that when something like this hits the fan, Ms Kelly thinks it's OK to say "It wasn't actually me that did it"?
Doesn't seem to stop the bitch from picking up the salary for taking ultimate responsibility each month, does it?
Alcazar
Doesn't seem to stop the bitch from picking up the salary for taking ultimate responsibility each month, does it?
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12 January 2006, 03:40 PM
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I blame that Catholic cult Opus Dei that she is a member of. I wonder if she will be wearing the barbed cilice punishment belt when she faces her questioners in the Commons today.[/QUOTE]
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i couldn't see it round her neck. where it should be.
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i couldn't see it round her neck. where it should be.
12 January 2006, 03:50 PM
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If anybody is interested in her wierd screwed up religion, sorry, CULT check this out: http://www.mond.at/opus.dei/
12 January 2006, 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Habgood
What seems to be forgotten (or maybe not considered important as the rights of sex offenders) here is the safety of the kids. This is the most important thing!
Wow - I thought the most important thing was to hound a member of the labour cabinet out of office, in the hope that some of the flying mud would stick to Tony Blair. That's certainly the impression I get from reading these forums. Looks like I was mistaken.
M
12 January 2006, 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by _Meridian_
Wow - I thought the most important thing was to hound a member of the labour cabinet out of office, in the hope that some of the flying mud would stick to Tony Blair. That's certainly the impression I get from reading these forums. Looks like I was mistaken.
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M
This issue is just a little more important that Kelly or Blair's future. Sex offenders working in our schools with our children is a serious issue.
Perhaps ypu should re-read this thread.
12 January 2006, 05:19 PM
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It is standard political procedure when you have been caught out making a "drongo" of yourself to order a review and to shift responsibility towards some one else.
Shameful episode in my opinion.
Les
Shameful episode in my opinion.
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12 January 2006, 10:03 PM
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I thought this was pretty bad until I listened to 5 Live this morning ...a few interesting things caught my ear:
There are 10 people on the Sex Offenders Registry working with children
There are people on the Sex Offenders Registry for peeing in public!
There are two registries ...the Sex Offender's & List 99 ...list 99 is for those considered a risk to children
No one on list 99 works with children
A Caution for a Sex Offence will put you on the list
Accepting a caution offers anonimity ...fighting an allegation in court does not
Temporary Internet files are deemed as stored images in the eyes of the law!
There are 10 people on the Sex Offenders Registry working with children
There are people on the Sex Offenders Registry for peeing in public!
There are two registries ...the Sex Offender's & List 99 ...list 99 is for those considered a risk to children
No one on list 99 works with children
A Caution for a Sex Offence will put you on the list
Accepting a caution offers anonimity ...fighting an allegation in court does not
Temporary Internet files are deemed as stored images in the eyes of the law!
12 January 2006, 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by _Meridian_
Wow - I thought the most important thing was to hound a member of the labour cabinet out of office, in the hope that some of the flying mud would stick to Tony Blair. That's certainly the impression I get from reading these forums. Looks like I was mistaken.
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M
Oh yeah, nowt wrong with Labour, of course...........
Beats me how naive folk don't seem to be able to see that T.B.Liar himself, in supporting these people, ought to be given the chop. His judgement seems a bit suspect, to say the least, he seems to support some well odd folk, who then go........but HE never does?
How many loonys can he support before the blinkered Lying Labour supporters themselves realise that the man is an idiot?
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13 January 2006, 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by DazW
I thought this was pretty bad until I listened to 5 Live this morning ...a few interesting things caught my ear:
There are 10 people on the Sex Offenders Registry working with children
There are people on the Sex Offenders Registry for peeing in public!
There are two registries ...the Sex Offender's & List 99 ...list 99 is for those considered a risk to children
No one on list 99 works with children
A Caution for a Sex Offence will put you on the list
Accepting a caution offers anonimity ...fighting an allegation in court does not
Temporary Internet files are deemed as stored images in the eyes of the law!
There are 10 people on the Sex Offenders Registry working with children
There are people on the Sex Offenders Registry for peeing in public!
There are two registries ...the Sex Offender's & List 99 ...list 99 is for those considered a risk to children
No one on list 99 works with children
A Caution for a Sex Offence will put you on the list
Accepting a caution offers anonimity ...fighting an allegation in court does not
Temporary Internet files are deemed as stored images in the eyes of the law!
13 January 2006, 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by DazW
I thought this was pretty bad until I listened to 5 Live this morning ...a few interesting things caught my ear:
There are 10 people on the Sex Offenders Registry working with children
There are people on the Sex Offenders Registry for peeing in public!
There are two registries ...the Sex Offender's & List 99 ...list 99 is for those considered a risk to children
No one on list 99 works with children
A Caution for a Sex Offence will put you on the list
Accepting a caution offers anonimity ...fighting an allegation in court does not
Temporary Internet files are deemed as stored images in the eyes of the law!
There are 10 people on the Sex Offenders Registry working with children
There are people on the Sex Offenders Registry for peeing in public!
There are two registries ...the Sex Offender's & List 99 ...list 99 is for those considered a risk to children
No one on list 99 works with children
A Caution for a Sex Offence will put you on the list
Accepting a caution offers anonimity ...fighting an allegation in court does not
Temporary Internet files are deemed as stored images in the eyes of the law!
These fools are protecting your children
.ps My wife was walking to work one morning and a tw@t was having a **** in a children's playground next door to an infants school in full view oif the kiddies & mothers. I wouldn't want a child of mine seeing that or that **** working with kids ! I would be happy for this **** to be on the sex offenders register and kept away from kids !
