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Old 07 January 2006, 11:53 PM
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Default ebay fraud suspended seller

anyone with experiences can help?


bought something just before new year on ebay costs over £300

paid by paypal (using debit card)

the barsteward's account is now suspended for obvious reasons,


in paypal he has a verified account

what can i do?

there is no address for him,
will police be interested?
Old 07 January 2006, 11:55 PM
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Contact Paypal.
Old 07 January 2006, 11:56 PM
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ask them. they might be might be not
Old 08 January 2006, 12:08 AM
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Theres loads of scams going on at the minute and loads of people out of pocket, i cant see ebay lasting much longer unless they clamp down on security

Contact paypal, on the selling page you won your item, it says item not recieved, press that and follow the instructions, hope you get your money back
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Fingers crossed mate, but dumdum? Hope you haven't been stupid about something.
Old 08 January 2006, 10:39 AM
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If the seller had enough feedback to have the 500pound buyer protection then contact paypal and they will almost certainly refund the full 300.

If the seller didnt have buyer protection, then they wont refund you, and your only hope is getting their address and paying a visit. I'd contact their local police too, but I doubt they'd show too much interest.

I use ebay a lot, and do get ripped off from time to time. Theres a lot of scammers on there now who'll sell/buy a few items to get some good feedback, then list loads of stuff but never send it out. ebay simply close their account down, but all the buyers lose their money.

In my experience theres a lot of Birmingham based scammers - if you are reading this Mohammed Answar or Khurrum Ahmed then

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Old 08 January 2006, 10:39 AM
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what was the item?

Put a claim in with paypal ASAP Debit card makes it more difficult so you need to get things moving.

BUT suspension could be as simple as not having the correct phone number or postcode on file.

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Old 08 January 2006, 10:56 AM
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[quote=Petem95]If the seller had enough feedback to have the 500pound buyer protection then contact paypal and they will almost certainly refund the full 300.

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...Im affraid thats not correct, even with buyer protection, I still only got £105 back from the original £180 I paid. Paypals excuse was "thats all the money he had left in his account" before they Froze it..
That buyer protection is a load of fcukin ****e, PAYPAL are ****e too, some of you wont agreee but trust me when it happens to you, then its a totally diff story
Old 08 January 2006, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Petem95
If the seller had enough feedback to have the 500pound buyer protection then contact paypal and they will almost certainly refund the full 300.

If the seller didnt have buyer protection, then they wont refund you, and your only hope is getting their address and paying a visit. I'd contact their local police too, but I doubt they'd show too much interest.

I use ebay a lot, and do get ripped off from time to time. Theres a lot of scammers on there now who'll sell/buy a few items to get some good feedback, then list loads of stuff but never send it out. ebay simply close their account down, but all the buyers lose their money.

In my experience theres a lot of Birmingham based scammers - if you are reading this Mohammed Answar or Khurrum Ahmed then
Dont count on getting the money back

If there accounts got no money in it will be very hard to get your money back from paypal.
Old 08 January 2006, 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Scooby Soon!
Dont count on getting the money back

If there accounts got no money in it will be very hard to get your money back from paypal.
...Just what I was saying!!!!!!
Old 08 January 2006, 01:24 PM
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The only way you can get money back from Paypal is if
1. The sellers still have the money in their account
or - the one they don't tell you about
2. If you pay with funds that were already in your Paypal account(not debit or credit card)
Don't know why this is.

edited to to say that is if you fulfill all the other criteria
Old 08 January 2006, 01:50 PM
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Paypal will has accounts on him,
Normally PAYPAL credit you then chase the person for the money!!!

GOOD LUCK
Old 08 January 2006, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Raartoot
...Im affraid thats not correct, even with buyer protection, I still only got £105 back from the original £180 I paid. Paypals excuse was "thats all the money he had left in his account" before they Froze it..
That buyer protection is a load of fcukin ****e, PAYPAL are ****e too, some of you wont agreee but trust me when it happens to you, then its a totally diff story
Thats crap then!! Surely most scammers will have removed all the money from their paypal account before people are chasing paypal for a refund, so that pretty much makes the "buyer protection" worthless?!!

Ebay and paypal really need to sort their act out - paypal fees are pretty stupid already, so they should be able to afford to offer buyers some genuine protection.

I think either theres so many scammers on ebay now that ebay simply cant keep track, or they simply dont care becuase they still receive their listing and final item sale fees + greedy paypal fees on top in most cases..
Old 08 January 2006, 03:03 PM
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Check this out

http://feedback.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayIS...&iid=-1&de=off

The guy stole over 100K

(sorry if its SIAL)
Old 08 January 2006, 03:28 PM
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It has been posted before, but I think it's worth being reposted as it shows how rife fraud is.

I'm amazed the police (globally) haven't shut down eBay for aiding, abetting and harboring criminal activites (be it fraud, scams or stolen goods). Be it eBay's fault or not - the public need the safe guards which it is not providing. A disclaimer written by smartarsed lawers, or fobbing people who have been scammed to the banks to sort is not the answer.

Shutting it all down until they can provide a good workable solution is the only answer for the greater good. But the accountants wouldn't like that, would they?
Old 08 January 2006, 03:35 PM
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Must admit to only buying items under £50 now and the person needs to have over 50 feedback. Not had any problems yet when selling although I am quick to cancel any dodgy bids (unless they're from Nigeria)
Old 08 January 2006, 08:34 PM
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it acutally looks like i'm well and truly fooked

as his account with paypal is verified will they give me his address?
Old 08 January 2006, 09:02 PM
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Sorry to hear that, its a shame Ebay gets the scumbags that spoil it for the rest, why the f*ck people cant work for a living, seems its mainly young lads trying to finance a flash lifestyle based on what I have read, preying on newbies, the careless, the dim and the unsuspecting caught out by the plausible.

I got stiffed (being in the dim category at the time) in a speakers scam for 200 quid, through detective work and tenacity I got my money back.

Just keep at it, use previous buyers to get the address, get Astraboy to offer some revenge tactics, that man is just pure evil (but nice with it)
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