Part of your speeding fine goes to a South African arms manufacturer
05 December 2005, 04:24 PM
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Part of your speeding fine goes to a South African arms manufacturer
http://www.safespeed.org.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4896
So, given that official policy is that speeding fines are used to buy more cameras, and the front facing Truvelo camera is now more popular than the old gatso, that means that when you pay your 60 quid, some of it will be going to a South African arms manufacturer.
I wonder if they sell to Iran too?
Originally Posted by Curmudgeon
It appears that our friends at Truvelo (www.truvelo.com) make make sniper rifles and many other firearms. Is this the same company that makes certain cameras we all know and love so much? Is your speeding fine going, in part, to a weapons company? I'm not certain so I'd love to start a discussion and some research on this.
Originally Posted by Ziltro
I saw a while ago that they made amour and thought this would mean their camera houses would be harder to destroy than Gatsos! I didn't realise they also made weapons...
From http://www.truvelouk.com: "Truvelo (UK) is a subsidiary of Truvelo Manufacturers (Pty) Ltd in S Africa"
From http://www.truvelo.com/legal.html: "Truvelo Manufacturers. P O Box 14183, Lyttleton 0140, South Africa."
Yes, they are the same company.
Why are my local police force funding arms manufacturers?
From http://www.truvelouk.com: "Truvelo (UK) is a subsidiary of Truvelo Manufacturers (Pty) Ltd in S Africa"
From http://www.truvelo.com/legal.html: "Truvelo Manufacturers. P O Box 14183, Lyttleton 0140, South Africa."
Yes, they are the same company.
Why are my local police force funding arms manufacturers?
In a 45-page report released today, "A Question of Principle: Arms Trade and Human Rights," Human Rights Watch charged the South African government with selling weapons to countries with serious human rights problems, where an influx of weaponry could significantly worsen ongoing abuses.
Human Rights Watch noted that after 1994, South Africa announced more restrictive policies on arms transfers. But the report charges that those policies are not always being followed. In 1994, a scandal erupted involving the sale by Armscor, the apartheid-era governmental arms export agency, of weapons to Yemen for probable on-shipment to the former Yugoslavia, then under U.N. embargo.
Human Rights Watch noted that after 1994, South Africa announced more restrictive policies on arms transfers. But the report charges that those policies are not always being followed. In 1994, a scandal erupted involving the sale by Armscor, the apartheid-era governmental arms export agency, of weapons to Yemen for probable on-shipment to the former Yugoslavia, then under U.N. embargo.
05 December 2005, 04:33 PM
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http://www.truvelo.co.za/armoury/a_401.html - where their weapons are used... Not Iran though.
I didn't know they were the ones who made the Neostead auto-shotty!
I didn't know they were the ones who made the Neostead auto-shotty!
05 December 2005, 04:37 PM
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I also note from that page that they sell to Zimbabwe and Korea. They don't state which Korea and I know if it were me and I was selling to South Korea, I'd want to make the point pretty clearly that it's South Korea, and not Kim Jong Il
Edit: and no, but there is a difference between were and arms manufacturer and are currently an arms manufacturer. Subaru used to make aircraft for the Japanese military back in the war.
Truvelo are currently shipping arms to countries with known human rights violations (Zimbabwe) and the UK police are funding them with your speeding fines
Edit: and no, but there is a difference between were and arms manufacturer and are currently an arms manufacturer. Subaru used to make aircraft for the Japanese military back in the war.
Truvelo are currently shipping arms to countries with known human rights violations (Zimbabwe) and the UK police are funding them with your speeding fines
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You lot are missing the point. Lots of people did bad things during the war, but Truvelo are still in the business of selling arms to dodgy african reigemes(sp?) today.
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Originally Posted by Lum
You lot are missing the point. Lots of people did bad things during the war, but Truvelo are still in the business of selling arms to dodgy african reigemes(sp?) today.
05 December 2005, 06:51 PM
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And Saab make a soddding great war attack plane, who do they sell to?? They are proud of their aicraft heratige.
There are quite a few compaines out there that have an "arms" wing, get used to it.
There are quite a few compaines out there that have an "arms" wing, get used to it.
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Originally Posted by CyprusScooby
Well Subaru made Fighter Aircraft in WW2. They were one of the manufacturers of the Zero!
06 December 2005, 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Kevin Greeley
Almost - Mitsubishi made the Zero, but Subaru made the engines - didn't realise that!
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