top gear, jc crashes into a hedge !!
04 December 2005, 09:14 PM
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For those who don't know what a shagged big ends sounds like...now you know.
My uncle's Carlton automatic made that very noise, from 120K onwards....although amazingly it was nursed on 'til 135K before it blew. Taking the revs past 3000rpm was scary experience indeed.
Those Citreon/Maserati v6s were notorious for it...apparently when they were made they started machining the engine blocks before the castings had chance to cool properly, so they would warp and suffer various stress related failures. Italians eh?
My uncle's Carlton automatic made that very noise, from 120K onwards....although amazingly it was nursed on 'til 135K before it blew. Taking the revs past 3000rpm was scary experience indeed.
Those Citreon/Maserati v6s were notorious for it...apparently when they were made they started machining the engine blocks before the castings had chance to cool properly, so they would warp and suffer various stress related failures. Italians eh?
04 December 2005, 09:23 PM
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The yellow Ferrari tested tonight was actually bought from a good friend of mine who took me out in it during the summer. I was quite surprised by the close up of the small rust patch as the car is in great condition.
I don't want to start comparing it to my Impreza but it certainly wouldn't keep up with my 270bhp MY00. It actually feels faster than it is, exagerated by the fact that your sitting so low.
It's not really a classic design but the angular lines do work quite well when you see it in the metal.
I don't want to start comparing it to my Impreza but it certainly wouldn't keep up with my 270bhp MY00. It actually feels faster than it is, exagerated by the fact that your sitting so low.
It's not really a classic design but the angular lines do work quite well when you see it in the metal.
04 December 2005, 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 7 Foot
The yellow George tested tonight was actually bought from a good friend of mine who took me out in it during the summer. I was quite surprised by the close up of the small rust patch as the car is in great condition.
I don't want to start comparing it to my Impreza but it certainly wouldn't keep up with my 270bhp MY00. It actually feels faster than it is, exagerated by the fact that your sitting so low.
It's not really a classic design but the angular lines do work quite well when you see it in the metal.
I don't want to start comparing it to my Impreza but it certainly wouldn't keep up with my 270bhp MY00. It actually feels faster than it is, exagerated by the fact that your sitting so low.
It's not really a classic design but the angular lines do work quite well when you see it in the metal.
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04 December 2005, 10:36 PM
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I'm not convinced that fell off all on its own.
They didn't buy the Ferrari initially as it was in too good condition. They wanted a car that would provide a little more entertainment.
They didn't buy the Ferrari initially as it was in too good condition. They wanted a car that would provide a little more entertainment.
05 December 2005, 11:07 AM
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Was a good feature though - especially when they tested the bhp on the cars ! I though Clarksons was supposed to have just had a 10K engine rebuild though, so couldnt work out why it was so down on power, and why the engine blew ( unless he didnt put any oil back in during the oil change ).
And the track thing where Stig trounced them all ( by over 30 seconds for most ) in the Astra was class.
Dont really know why anyone would buy any of those cars though - they were all the ugly crap versions of classics that nobody wants, if you're going to get a classic, spend the money and get a proper one, not some ugly 70's POS.
And the track thing where Stig trounced them all ( by over 30 seconds for most ) in the Astra was class.
Dont really know why anyone would buy any of those cars though - they were all the ugly crap versions of classics that nobody wants, if you're going to get a classic, spend the money and get a proper one, not some ugly 70's POS.
05 December 2005, 11:54 AM
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Did you hear the engine on that Maserati as they were driving it on to the rolling road trailer. It sounded very sick then - tappets don't sound like that 
Clarkson probably misread the advert....it NEEDED a 10K rebuild LOL
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If you want to know why it blew, it was probably a build problem where a few corners was cut due to parts availability or cost. But also with those Maser v6's they do have problems with the chain tensioners breaking up, contaminating the bearings and oilways, also the oil cooler hoses perish and chunks come off internally blocking oilways. Then the oil pump drive sometimes sheers off. Clarkson also let it overheat on the track, which could have caused partial seizure, or a gasket failure resulting in further air lock or contaminating the oil. There was probably a few other problems with the car as he couldn't go above 4000rpm (fueling/ignition/stretched accelerator cable).
The other two probably just needed a good tune up.
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It amazing how many crap cars Ferrari and the like made. The Mondial and 412i spring to mind as horrible cars not worthy of such a badge. But I suppose the Italians are alowed to make the odd dog every now and again.
Clarkson probably misread the advert....it NEEDED a 10K rebuild LOL <geek mode>
If you want to know why it blew, it was probably a build problem where a few corners was cut due to parts availability or cost. But also with those Maser v6's they do have problems with the chain tensioners breaking up, contaminating the bearings and oilways, also the oil cooler hoses perish and chunks come off internally blocking oilways. Then the oil pump drive sometimes sheers off. Clarkson also let it overheat on the track, which could have caused partial seizure, or a gasket failure resulting in further air lock or contaminating the oil. There was probably a few other problems with the car as he couldn't go above 4000rpm (fueling/ignition/stretched accelerator cable).
The other two probably just needed a good tune up.
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It amazing how many crap cars Ferrari and the like made. The Mondial and 412i spring to mind as horrible cars not worthy of such a badge. But I suppose the Italians are alowed to make the odd dog every now and again.
05 December 2005, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by 7 Foot
The yellow Ferrari tested tonight was actually bought from a good friend of mine who took me out in it during the summer. I was quite surprised by the close up of the small rust patch as the car is in great condition.
I don't want to start comparing it to my Impreza but it certainly wouldn't keep up with my 270bhp MY00. It actually feels faster than it is, exagerated by the fact that your sitting so low.
It's not really a classic design but the angular lines do work quite well when you see it in the metal.
I don't want to start comparing it to my Impreza but it certainly wouldn't keep up with my 270bhp MY00. It actually feels faster than it is, exagerated by the fact that your sitting so low.
It's not really a classic design but the angular lines do work quite well when you see it in the metal.
How did your mate manage to get an "A" reg, and therefore age related plate on a vehicle that is clearly older than 1984?
Just wondered
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05 December 2005, 12:38 PM
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7Foot,
How did your mate manage to get an "A" reg, and therefore age related plate on a vehicle that is clearly older than 1984?
Just wondered
Matt
How did your mate manage to get an "A" reg, and therefore age related plate on a vehicle that is clearly older than 1984?
Just wondered
Matt
05 December 2005, 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by SlimJ_2005
Had to laugh at the end when JC said "He was hoping to crash into a different kind of hedge at Spearmint Rhino's..." at the end!!
Great, isn't it!?
I like the way they're incorporating the risque stuff into the banter.NS04
05 December 2005, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by MattOz
7Foot,
How did your mate manage to get an "A" reg, and therefore age related plate on a vehicle that is clearly older than 1984?
Just wondered
Matt
How did your mate manage to get an "A" reg, and therefore age related plate on a vehicle that is clearly older than 1984?
Just wondered
Matt
05 December 2005, 06:47 PM
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Well he's replied.
The text reads:
"It's a T reg. 1978. It had the A plate on it when I had it. Haven't got a clue how it was done."
As clear as mud.
The text reads:
"It's a T reg. 1978. It had the A plate on it when I had it. Haven't got a clue how it was done."
As clear as mud.
05 December 2005, 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by 7 Foot
Well he's replied.
The text reads:
"It's a T reg. 1978. It had the A plate on it when I had it. Haven't got a clue how it was done."
As clear as mud.
The text reads:
"It's a T reg. 1978. It had the A plate on it when I had it. Haven't got a clue how it was done."
As clear as mud.
05 December 2005, 07:07 PM
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Avi - Doubt it. My friend is a specialist mechanic who works on the most wonderful classics and exotica. We both used to attend the Coys Historical events at Silversone and watch the cars his company had entered.
He knows his stuff is what I'm trying to say.
I'll find out more when I next speak to him. I've got ltd information at the moment as he's only sent 1 text.
He knows his stuff is what I'm trying to say.
I'll find out more when I next speak to him. I've got ltd information at the moment as he's only sent 1 text.
05 December 2005, 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by farmer1
Surely the T would be at the end of the number plate, so an A could be at the start?
05 December 2005, 11:43 PM
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i've just watched it again. The reg is A11 RFT
from the RAC website...
Vehicle data search
Results for A11 RFT
Manufacturer FERRARI
Model
Body type COUPE
Colour YELLOW
Fuel type PETROL
Date manufactured 31 December 1978
Number of previous owners 11
Last owner change 12 October 2005
from the RAC website...
Vehicle data search
Results for A11 RFT
Manufacturer FERRARI
Model
Body type COUPE
Colour YELLOW
Fuel type PETROL
Date manufactured 31 December 1978
Number of previous owners 11
Last owner change 12 October 2005
05 December 2005, 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 7 Foot
Well he's replied.
The text reads:
"It's a T reg. 1978. It had the A plate on it when I had it. Haven't got a clue how it was done."
As clear as mud.
The text reads:
"It's a T reg. 1978. It had the A plate on it when I had it. Haven't got a clue how it was done."
As clear as mud.
Guess it could be ALL **T, but it certainly didn't appear that way! The plot thickens
Matt