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Old 03 November 2005, 09:53 PM
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Question spider bite? (warning, this could get nasty!)

Just been sent an increasingly gruesome set of photos by email, of what looks like a "bathtub" spider, then someone with a bite on his thumb (holds two thumbs together), the thumb gets worse and worse throughout 4-5 photos, and is eventually a massive fully open wound with what looks like a long chrysalis/worm inside.

I'm assuming/ hoping!! that this is a photoshop hoax, and one of you will have seen it before. Does it ring any bells?

(PS, no it's not the camel spider. Ahh, where did that little fella go?)
Old 03 November 2005, 10:04 PM
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If you type "spider bite" into google images you soon find it...doesn't look fake either
Old 03 November 2005, 10:04 PM
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Haven't seen that one. Are camel spiders related to camel toads?
Old 03 November 2005, 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Brendan Hughes
I'm assuming/ hoping!! that this is a photoshop hoax, and one of you will have seen it before. Does it ring any bells?
Not a hoax. It is a necrotising reaction to the venom of the Brown Recluse Spider.... quite nasty!

Do a google for "Brown Recluse"
Old 03 November 2005, 10:36 PM
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Old 03 November 2005, 10:38 PM
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That kind of reaction only happens if you are particularly susceptible to the venom. It can happen with snake bites too.... rattlesnake venom is another one that can cause it.
Old 03 November 2005, 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by ajm
That kind of reaction only happens if you are particularly susceptible to the venom. It can happen with snake bites too.... rattlesnake venom is another one that can cause it.
AFAIK there are 3 classifications of Venom:

Heamotoxic- attacks the blood
Neurotoxic- attacks the Nervous system.
Myotoxic- Attacks mucsle and tissue

Some venoms fall neatly into one category, others straddle two or more of the above. Nasty!!

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Old 03 November 2005, 11:10 PM
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Brown recluse spider? Only about 10% of bitten poeple have a bad reaction, but can cause necrotic wounds
Old 03 November 2005, 11:16 PM
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I've had that email sent to me, surprisingly from the 'dinosaur SIAL' group - horrible pics
Old 03 November 2005, 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by douglasb
Haven't seen that one. Are camel spiders related to camel toads?
That the things found on ratemycameltoad.com ?
Old 04 November 2005, 12:20 AM
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I've been bitten by what looked like a common garden spider. It stings like hell for a few minutes then swells up like a bee sting. An hour later all that was left were 2 tiny entry wounds.

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There is only one species in the UK that I know of that can inflict a painful bite, and that's this little fella:

http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showthrea...99#post4796241

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Alex, necrotising means dead tissue, doesn't it? So why the thing that looks like a chrysalis?
Old 04 November 2005, 09:35 AM
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Seen those before - those pics are urgh!

Was lucky enough to have spent a couple of weeks in texas. Used to go for a smoke on the porch of the place I was staying at and rest up against a wall.

Anyway, a pest control guy came to fumigate the house one day and while I was talking to him he told me to stay inside for a moment. Next thing he's pulled out a lock-knife and stabbed something that was in a rut in the wall where I used to rest up against. He then pulls out the remains of a brown recluse and telling me how dangerous they are and how I REALLY wouldn't want to get bitten by one of these things.
Old 04 November 2005, 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Brendan Hughes
Alex, necrotising means dead tissue, doesn't it? So why the thing that looks like a chrysalis?
Yes, the venom contains a cocktail of enzymes that break down cells. The 'crysalis' is probably just subcutaneous fat or other tissue from his hand!
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Thanks.

Wonder why we haven't had any girlies posting in this thread yet?
Old 04 November 2005, 11:43 AM
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http://www.emedicinehealth.com/artic...ltimediamedia6

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