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Old 17 September 2005, 10:12 PM
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My boiler appears to have gone wrong. I took it apart, tested the circuit board and other things and it appears to be the Gas Valve. I called a plumber, and threw him out after 40 minutes as he was absolutely useless. Didn't know what he was doing at all, and starting "hitting" bits of the boiler with a screwdriver for no apparent reason.

Anyway, can I change the gas valve myself? It looks very easy. If not, anyone know a GOOD plumber around Tunbridge Wells/Crowborough?

Thanks,

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Old 17 September 2005, 10:13 PM
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That would mean disconnecting the supply, and therefore requires a CORGI registered plumber.
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That would mean disconnecting the supply, and therefore requires a CORGI registered plumber.
Hello

I don't have to disconnect the supply, the gas valve is above the pipe that has an "off" valve?

Steve
Old 17 September 2005, 10:25 PM
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Hmmmm.... I dunno then.
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Originally Posted by boxst
Hello

My boiler appears to have gone wrong. I took it apart, tested the circuit board and other things and it appears to be the Gas Valve. I called a plumber, and threw him out after 40 minutes as he was absolutely useless. Didn't know what he was doing at all, and starting "hitting" bits of the boiler with a screwdriver for no apparent reason.

Anyway, can I change the gas valve myself? It looks very easy. If not, anyone know a GOOD plumber around Tunbridge Wells/Crowborough?

Thanks,

STeve
Have you got the full installation manual. If so, all information should be in there.
I have, in the past, contacted manufacturers and they've sent me manuals.
Don't know if they still do.
You are not "supposed" to touch gas unless Corgi.
A new valve will need setting though.
Old 17 September 2005, 11:00 PM
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You could always change it then call Transco and tell them you can smell gas and they will come and test it, for free, not that I would do anything like that.
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Hello

I have the installation manual, and it tells you screw-by-screw how to dismantle it.

Steve
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Get your tools out then
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Originally Posted by boxst
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I have the installation manual, and it tells you screw-by-screw how to dismantle it.

Steve
I know what I'd do. I woudn't fire up but would get in a Corgi (I have friends at the Palace ) to do it and adjust though.
Old 17 September 2005, 11:37 PM
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I am afraid its illegal now to touch any form of gas appliance, just find a good heating engineer in your yellow pages that services your make and leave it to them, its not worth the hassle to you or your family, or indeed your neighbours if you have an undetected leak
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It's a grey area. I checked on http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/indg238.pdf

"by law anyone carrying out work on gas appliances
or fittings AS PART OF THEIR BUSINESS must be
competent and registered with CORGI"

As I'm not a plumber, this doesn't apply to me.

"by law only a competent person can carry out
work on gas appliances or fittings. Do-it-yourself
work on gas appliances or fittings could be dangerous
and IS LIKELY to be illegal"

Therefore, DIY gas work is not necessarily illegal if you can demonstrate that you are competent.

I would still advise you to use a Corgi-registered professional.
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Also, as with all tradesmen, best to get one recommended by friend, colleague or relation.
Pick one at random, check with Corgi they are registered. It's not unknown for some to claim membership when they are not.
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Just do it yourself, you seem to know what you're doing.
Old 18 September 2005, 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Kevin Greeley
It's a grey area. I checked on http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/indg238.pdf

"by law anyone carrying out work on gas appliances
or fittings AS PART OF THEIR BUSINESS must be
competent and registered with CORGI"

As I'm not a plumber, this doesn't apply to me.

"by law only a competent person can carry out
work on gas appliances or fittings. Do-it-yourself
work on gas appliances or fittings could be dangerous
and IS LIKELY to be illegal"

Therefore, DIY gas work is not necessarily illegal if you can demonstrate that you are competent.

I would still advise you to use a Corgi-registered professional.
so taking of the hob rings and cleaning them (diy) now requires a corgi man to do it.. and is illegal...



M
Old 18 September 2005, 09:42 PM
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take the front cover off, and look for the over temperature reset switch...had a problem on a mates boiler, it was a pig to find, but cured it.
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Kevin is correct, you can do the work yourself if its a private house.

check out the moany reception I got when I asked advice on DIY boiler maintenance:

http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showthrea...7&page=1&pp=20




Originally Posted by Kevin Greeley
It's a grey area. I checked on http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/indg238.pdf

"by law anyone carrying out work on gas appliances
or fittings AS PART OF THEIR BUSINESS must be
competent and registered with CORGI"

As I'm not a plumber, this doesn't apply to me.

"by law only a competent person can carry out
work on gas appliances or fittings. Do-it-yourself
work on gas appliances or fittings could be dangerous
and IS LIKELY to be illegal"

Therefore, DIY gas work is not necessarily illegal if you can demonstrate that you are competent.

I would still advise you to use a Corgi-registered professional.

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Old 18 September 2005, 10:32 PM
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ajm..

What else would you expect from a member of the Cowboy Orientated Revenue Generation Industry ?

They are organisations set up to make money for friends of the Government, just like the NICEIC..another bunch of useless tosspots that look after the electrical industry, and it's all riding on the back of this stupid Amereican claim culture that this country now resides under.

Note to employees:

Your company does not really give a ******* flying **** if you fall off a ladder, or get impaled on a fork lift truck....what they do care about, is how much it will raise their insurance premiums by if you make a claim due to an industrial accident. An accident that was probably caused by your own stupidity anyway
Old 19 September 2005, 08:26 AM
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Hello

Just for completeness, I had a look at the valve, decided that I really didn't want to dismantle the rest of the boiler to get it out, so put everything back together.

And the boiler worked.

So I'm off to get a maintenance contract with someone ..

Steve
Old 19 September 2005, 03:24 PM
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steve,

part of Corgi diagnostics involve the following:-

"hitting" bits of the boiler with a screwdriver for no apparent reason."

closely followed by a huge bill and a promise to return with the correct bits!!!!

lol

sorry not much help, but may make you smile a bit.

good luck

Dazza
Old 19 September 2005, 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by boxst
Hello

Just for completeness, I had a look at the valve, decided that I really didn't want to dismantle the rest of the boiler to get it out, so put everything back together.

And the boiler worked.

So I'm off to get a maintenance contract with someone ..

Steve
Sounds a bit odd that as most boilers are designed that the gas valve is one of the more accessable items. Also when the gas valve is replaced, the boiler pipework (Gas) should be soundness tested and lastly the burner pressure set.....not a DIY job.

Mog

NOTE. If the gas valve is now working it sounds like it was jammed shut and what you should realise is in reverse that it could also jam open..an accident waiting to happen.

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If it was jamed shut is there any chance that hitting it with a screwdriver released it
Old 19 September 2005, 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by fast bloke
If it was jamed shut is there any chance that hitting it with a screwdriver released it
There is a very good chance that it did, but you then go back to what happens if it jams open.

Mog
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