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Old 31 August 2005, 12:51 PM
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Default When you've just got 3 points for speeding..........

...............do you have to inform your insurance company straight away or do you wait till renewal?

Old 31 August 2005, 12:54 PM
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wait.
Old 31 August 2005, 12:54 PM
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Immediately and then get hit with an increased premium. If you dont and u have an bump, then insurance will not payout. Any excuse to not payout, and they will take it.
Old 31 August 2005, 01:01 PM
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Lol 2 different answers, in my experience the insurer has not been interested until renewal.
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And there you have it. Polarised opinion on Scoobynet LOL
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Legally?
Old 31 August 2005, 01:13 PM
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Depends on the insurer, there is no legal reqt.
Old 31 August 2005, 01:20 PM
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Check the terms and conditions of your insurance. Most say you should inform them immediately. The premium hike won't happen till renewall anyway. The exception may be if you have been done for drink driving or such, in which case thay may cancel on you, then you need to try and find somebody that will take you on.
Old 31 August 2005, 01:32 PM
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I work for an Insurer, and certainly we expect customer's to advise us immediately, but as Olly said, the increase in premium doesn't take effect until renewal. (And if it's your first 3 points, we don't load your premium anyway, as long as it's a standard SP30. If you collect another 3, you can expect a c20% hike at renewal.)
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I have a fixed penelty for 74 mph in a 60 limit. Would that make it an SP60?
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Originally Posted by Jay m A
And there you have it. Polarised opinion on Scoobynet LOL
Yeh and I was right
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Originally Posted by Brun
I have a fixed penelty for 74 mph in a 60 limit. Would that make it an SP60?
Surprisingly................................ yes.
Old 31 August 2005, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by lucylastic
Surprisingly................................ yes.
Actually..................no

An SP60 is an undefined speeding offence. You should get an SP30, however courts are known to give an SP60 which is disliked by insurers as it it is by definition, undefined.

SP10 Exceeding goods vehicle speed limits
SP20 Exceeding speed limit for type of vehicle (excluding goods or passenger vehicles)
SP30 Exceeding statutory speed limit on a public road
SP40 Exceeding passenger vehicle speed limit
SP50 Exceeding speed limit on a motorway
SP60 Undefined speed limit offence

Sure you were right bioforger?

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Originally Posted by lucylastic
Surprisingly................................ yes.
Possibly not

See the SafeSpeed press release which the Daily Telegraph also covered:

In particular some authorities have been erroneously marking driving licences with speeding offence code SP60 instead of the correct and commonplace SP30. Normal speeding offences on non-motorway roads should be coded SP30. SP60 is supposed to be reserved for 'undefined' speed limit offences, but has sometimes been applied in error for offences 'where a 60mph speed limit was exceeded'.
Old 31 August 2005, 02:26 PM
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Lucylastic's embarrassed now.
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Big fermenting foof.
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Originally Posted by MattW
Actually..................no

An SP60 is an undefined speeding offence. You should get an SP30, however courts are known to give an SP60 which is disliked by insurers as it it is by definition, undefined.

SP10 Exceeding goods vehicle speed limits
SP20 Exceeding speed limit for type of vehicle (excluding goods or passenger vehicles)
SP30 Exceeding statutory speed limit on a public road
SP40 Exceeding passenger vehicle speed limit
SP50 Exceeding speed limit on a motorway
SP60 Undefined speed limit offence

Sure you were right bioforger?
Ooops! Well, ok, but my first point was right - I checked it with someone who knows what they're talking about here
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Originally Posted by TelBoy
Lucylastic's embarrassed now.
I am utterly humiliated actually Ah well, how should I know - I just look after sweatshops, ooops I mean call centres - and everyone knows they know nuffink.
Old 31 August 2005, 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by lucylastic
I am utterly humiliated actually Ah well, how should I know - I just look after sweatshops, ooops I mean call centres - and everyone knows they know nuffink.
LMAO
Old 31 August 2005, 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by MattW
Depends on the insurer, there is no legal reqt.
Yes there is. It's a contract of utmost good faith. You tell them about every material fact, and everything is material.
Old 31 August 2005, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Milamber
Yes there is. It's a contract of utmost good faith. You tell them about every material fact, and everything is material.

Somebody MUST be able to pull apart this generalisation too, no??!
Old 31 August 2005, 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Milamber
Yes there is. It's a contract of utmost good faith. You tell them about every material fact, and everything is material.
When you make the contract....yes?
Old 31 August 2005, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Milamber
Yes there is. It's a contract of utmost good faith. You tell them about every material fact, and everything is material.
What, like if you have leather seats?
Old 31 August 2005, 02:47 PM
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LOL, it's going well!!
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You tell them about EVERYTHING when you make the contract AND you tell them about EVERYTHING that changes during the life of the contract.

C'mon it's not that hard to understand surely?
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Originally Posted by Milamber
You tell them about EVERYTHING when you make the contract AND you tell them about EVERYTHING that changes during the life of the contract.

C'mon it's not that hard to understand surely?
Well I just rang them up to tell them that since I took my insurance out I had another birthday and am therefore one year older than I said. The girl on the phone thought I was taking the ****.

Thanks a lot pal!
Old 31 August 2005, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by MattW
Well I just rang them up to tell them that since I took my insurance out I had another birthday and am therefore one year older than I said. The girl on the phone thought I was taking the ****.

Thanks a lot pal!
But you're still insured right
Old 31 August 2005, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Milamber
You tell them about EVERYTHING when you make the contract AND you tell them about EVERYTHING that changes during the life of the contract.

C'mon it's not that hard to understand surely?
Do you even have to tell your insurers if you have impure thoughts ? If so, what's the premium loading ?
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I think you'll find that "dirty calls" will get you into even more trouble.


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