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Old 31 July 2005, 12:47 PM
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Hello

It's been a long time since I had an air-rifle. Since I was a child in fact, which is, oh, a long time! Things seem to have moved on considerably, as my rifle back then was a break barrel .22 something that I remember changing the spring on for some high powered German one.

I am looking for a simple rifle, that preferably has a multi-load facility, is as powerful as possible and isn't that expensive (< £130). It can fire whatever, but as I seem to have a surplus of BB's from the States (that don't fit my Anics 3000), then that would be preferable.

I have looked at the Crosman 2100B (but each set of pumps only fires one pellet, is that right?), and the Crosman 1077 (that looks okay).

Thanks,

Steve
Old 31 July 2005, 01:07 PM
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my fave is the logun s16 sniper look i luv it, but it has issues with the air cannister etc etc

buy a gun mart, plenty of nice guns their
Old 31 July 2005, 01:08 PM
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sod that bb crap, get a .22 HW90, and a foot pump
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Hello

They are both a bit on the expensive side (£500 for the S16!).

It doesn't have to fire BB's, pellets are okay as well.

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Originally Posted by Chip Sengravy
sod that bb crap, get a .22 HW90, and a foot pump

is this the weihrauch

yeah def a nice gun but expensive
Old 31 July 2005, 01:16 PM
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here boxst

cheapest guy for guns in the uk

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What you going to shoot??.Agree with the Weihrauch HW90,these are imported by Hull cartridges arent they?so try their site for more info.

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Originally Posted by mad555
What you going to shoot??.Agree with the Weihrauch HW90,these are imported by Hull cartridges arent they?so try their site for more info.
he has a limited choice u know with an airgun either targets , rabbit, crows, pigeon flying rats or grey squirrels , rats etc

for other birds like pheasant and woodpigeon their game and its illegal to shoot them with airguns
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Weinrach [spelling ??] my mate used to have one of those, not sure if the HW90 was about [20 yrs ago] but they were awesome. Consistent at 750 ft/sec [12 ft/lb which I think is the elgal limit, though haven't spent much time catching up]

So buy German....

BSA if there still about or Webley - I still own a Webley Vulcan superb piece of kit if not a little creaky now.

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[QUOTE=moses]he has a limited choice u know with an airgun either targets , rabbit, crows, pigeon flying rats or grey squirrels , rats etc

for other birds like pheasant and woodpigeon their game and its illegal to shoot them with airguns
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lol u make me sound like a ruthless hitman or something

thats so sad
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This reminds me of when I were a lad. I had a pneumatic Sharps Innova which had the bleed-off valve brazed up. If you were man enough you could get over 20 ft.lbs out of it (and if you had the patience to pump the b*stard thing 12 times...)

I have to make do with 10 ft.lbs in a CO2 powered Crossman now, but its more than enough to see off feral pigeons and the odd rat.

By limiting your budget to £130 or less its going to be difficult to get a powerful accurate and consistant rifle. Id suggest looking at Theobens website and picking a good clean used rifle for which they supply a gas strut conversion. You can pick up a used Webley Vulcan or BSA Super Meteor for next to nothing, Id go for the BSA because itll sell for less, but itll be equal when converted... Easily within budget.


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Originally Posted by GC8
This reminds me of when I were a lad. I had a pneumatic Sharps Innova which had the bleed-off valve brazed up. If you were man enough you could get over 20 ft.lbs out of it (and if you had the patience to pump the b*stard thing 12 times...)

I have to make do with 10 ft.lbs in a CO2 powered Crossman now, but its more than enough to see off feral pigeons and the odd rat.

By limiting your budget to £130 or less its going to be difficult to get a powerful accurate and consistant rifle. Id suggest looking at Theobens website and picking a good clean used rifle for which they supply a gas strut conversion. You can pick up a used Webley Vulcan or BSA Super Meteor for next to nothing, Id go for the BSA because itll sell for less, but itll be equal when converted... Easily within budget.


Simon
u can still get it done illegaly to get it over 20 lbs but its a harsh punishment now for it aint it
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Originally Posted by moses
for other birds like pheasant and woodpigeon their game and its illegal to shoot them with airguns
Shooting woodpigeons with an air rifle is not illegal.
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Originally Posted by Nevetas
Shooting woodpigeons with an air rifle is not illegal.

hmm sounds good to me, maybe i aught to try it they supposed to be so damn tasty


u ever tried moorhens, never tasted them, my mates hunt them with their hawks
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sorry one more thing what about woodcocks r they ok to shoot with an air rifle or does it have to be a shotgun


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a nice woodcock




very expensive meat


Old 31 July 2005, 10:50 PM
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errrr !!

I used to have a BSA meteor super as a kid (45 years old now!!) then someone put in an "airsporter" spring AFAIK !! much better !!

LOL

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get yourself a s16 i got one and had no problems anything i point at i hit
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Originally Posted by jaywrx
get yourself a s16 i got one and had no problems anything i point at i hit

thats what i thought but they were forced to make a mach2 coz of the problems and alot of the guys sell them cheap now so u should get it cheap

alot of problems with the gas cannister letting out air
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I've got a sussex airarms jackal - quite rare now I believe
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Have a BSA Super sport with Hawke 9 x 40 scope which I use at weekends ( I work away!) and had to use it for rats yesterday! During week I've a Webley Exocet s with Hawke 10 x 40. Both are full powered, accurate and ideal for plinking, targets and hunting. I'd recommend either!


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Originally Posted by moses
thats what i thought but they were forced to make a mach2 coz of the problems and alot of the guys sell them cheap now so u should get it cheap

alot of problems with the gas cannister letting out air
Well i have the shrouded version (latest model) and had no problems.
In the manual it says to fill bottle slowly rather than quick
And make sure seals are greased and changed when required
if you stick to these 2 rules you should have no problem there is nothing else to go wrong
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Have a Logan S16 myself. Heard about stories with the air seal on the cannister, but I've had no issues with mine.

Oh and I don't shoot helpless, cuddly woodland animals either

Stefan

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