london bomber caught in rome
31 July 2005, 12:28 PM
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london bomber caught in rome
anyone watch the news this morn
he gave an interview to the italians, cops and stuff
its shocking how quickly he got to rome
http://www.islamonline.net/English/N...rticle01.shtml
LONDON, July 31, 2005 (IslamOnline.net & News Agencies) – A would-be London bomber arrested by Italian police has told investigators that he and three fellows were motivated by the Iraq war and not by religious fervor, denying any link to Al-Qaeda network.
"We met each other at a muscle-building class in Notting Hill and Muktar (Said Ibrahim) showed us some DVDs with images of the war in Iraq, especially women and children killed by American and British soldiers," Osman Hussain, suspected of attempting to blow up commuters in west London on July 21, was quoted as saying by Italy’s La Repubblica newspaper Sunday, July 31.
Hussain said films on the atrocities committed by US and British occupation soldiers in Iraq helped to foster the group's "political conviction that it is necessary to give a signal, to do something."
The Italian Interior Ministry confirmed that the quotes from Hussain's interrogation in La Repubblica were authentic but declined to comment on the source of the leaks, reported the Independent Sunday.
The 27-year-old Ethiopian-born Briton, also known as Isaac Hamdi, was arrested Friday, July 29, after Italian police had tracked his mobile phone number – provided by the British -- through France and Italy before his arrival in Rome by train.
His first stage of a preliminary extradition hearing was held Saturday, July 30, but Rome's Court of Appeal may rule he should remain in Italy as part of an investigation into the killing of an Italian citizen in the 7 July bombings, according to the Independent.
In an obvious retreat from his earlier stance, British Prime Minister Tony Blair acknowledged on July 26 that the Iraq war was being used to recruit terrorists.
An ICM poll for the Guardian found on July 19 that two-thirds of Britons believe the July 7 bombings in were linked to Blair's support for the US-led invasion of Iraq.
The "ill-considered venture" of invading Iraq has turned into a "mess" fueling attacks around the world and providing Al-Qaeda with sympathizers across the Muslim world, award-winning British reporter Patrick Cockburn wrote in the Independent on July 25.
Climate of Hatred
Hussain denied links to the London bombings that killed 52 people and the four bombers on Thursday, July 7, saying they were surprised by the attacks.
"We have no link with the Pakistanis," he said.
However, his group reportedly took the 7 July carnage as a signal that it should also act.
"We had to do something. We had to react to the climate of hatred and hostility that was created after the 7 July bombs. We were not supposed to kill anyone. That bomb would not have been able to cause victims."
Hussain also denied any link to Al-Qaeda network.
"We never had contacts with the Bin Laden organization. We knew that they existed. We had access to their platforms through the internet, but nothing direct."
Eritrean-born Ibrahim, a would-be bomber, was arrested in west London on Friday. He is accused of trying to blow up a Number 26 double-decker bus.
The second, Ramzi Mohammad, is suspected of trying to set off his device in The Oval Underground train station.
A third, 24-year-old Somali-born Yassin Hassan Omar, was detained in a raid in the central city of Birmingham on Wednesday, July 27. He is wanted for the attempted bombing of a Victoria Line train near Warren Street.
The Metropolitan Police released the "girlfriends" of Ibrahim and Mohammad after being arrested Friday heading for London Stansted airport.
The Sunday Mirror quoted a security source as saying the pair were now being treated as witnesses rather than suspects.
Meanwhile, the family of Zambian-held London bombings suspect Haroon Aswat said they feared he may be extradited to face torture in the United States, and criticized Britain's handling of the situation.
The British national is suspected of links to the July 7 London bombings and is also wanted by US authorities over alleged attempts to set up a terrorist training camp in Bly, Oregon.
Third Group
Police officers maintain cordon outside flats in west London. (Reuters)
In another development, British security sources told the Sunday Times that a third terror cell is planning multiple suicide bomb attacks on London, reported Agence France-Presse (AFP).
The sources said that the terrorists were on the loose and planning further blasts on "soft" targets in the center of the city such as the Underground subway network.
The Times said intelligence of a third cell with access to explosives and plans to hit London with a third wave of attacks sparked Thursday's unprecedented deployment of 6,000 police officers on the city's streets.
A member of the Metropolitan Police's firearms unit which nabbed the suspected bombers Friday told the Sunday Times: "What we did on Friday was just the tip of the iceberg.
"There is some big stuff coming in the next few months. There's a big network that's got to be cracked."
British police were holding Sunday a total of 11 suspects in custody over the two waves of London bomb attacks this month.
All are being held on suspicion of being behind acts of terrorism, or harboring fugitives.
Searches have taken place at 14 addresses in London and two in Birmingham.
Fake Passports
The investigations have now generated over 5,300 separate police actions and detectives are examining 8,500 documents and 35,000 closed circuit television tapes.
A bag stuffed with bogus passports, documents and bank cards was found abandoned at London's Heathrow Airport, Britain's The News of the World reported Sunday.
The paper called the find a "potential terrorist goldmine" and said anti-terrorist officers were urgently probing the discovery.
The bag was spotted by a taxi driver on a verge near London's main airport on Thursday.
The 19 passports inside were for Pakistani, British, Indian, Nepalese and South African nationals.
The newspaper said pictures of the same men appear on different passports in different names.
Many passports had fake visas in different shades of ink from genuine documents.
he gave an interview to the italians, cops and stuff
its shocking how quickly he got to rome
http://www.islamonline.net/English/N...rticle01.shtml
LONDON, July 31, 2005 (IslamOnline.net & News Agencies) – A would-be London bomber arrested by Italian police has told investigators that he and three fellows were motivated by the Iraq war and not by religious fervor, denying any link to Al-Qaeda network.
"We met each other at a muscle-building class in Notting Hill and Muktar (Said Ibrahim) showed us some DVDs with images of the war in Iraq, especially women and children killed by American and British soldiers," Osman Hussain, suspected of attempting to blow up commuters in west London on July 21, was quoted as saying by Italy’s La Repubblica newspaper Sunday, July 31.
Hussain said films on the atrocities committed by US and British occupation soldiers in Iraq helped to foster the group's "political conviction that it is necessary to give a signal, to do something."
The Italian Interior Ministry confirmed that the quotes from Hussain's interrogation in La Repubblica were authentic but declined to comment on the source of the leaks, reported the Independent Sunday.
The 27-year-old Ethiopian-born Briton, also known as Isaac Hamdi, was arrested Friday, July 29, after Italian police had tracked his mobile phone number – provided by the British -- through France and Italy before his arrival in Rome by train.
His first stage of a preliminary extradition hearing was held Saturday, July 30, but Rome's Court of Appeal may rule he should remain in Italy as part of an investigation into the killing of an Italian citizen in the 7 July bombings, according to the Independent.
In an obvious retreat from his earlier stance, British Prime Minister Tony Blair acknowledged on July 26 that the Iraq war was being used to recruit terrorists.
An ICM poll for the Guardian found on July 19 that two-thirds of Britons believe the July 7 bombings in were linked to Blair's support for the US-led invasion of Iraq.
The "ill-considered venture" of invading Iraq has turned into a "mess" fueling attacks around the world and providing Al-Qaeda with sympathizers across the Muslim world, award-winning British reporter Patrick Cockburn wrote in the Independent on July 25.
Climate of Hatred
Hussain denied links to the London bombings that killed 52 people and the four bombers on Thursday, July 7, saying they were surprised by the attacks.
"We have no link with the Pakistanis," he said.
However, his group reportedly took the 7 July carnage as a signal that it should also act.
"We had to do something. We had to react to the climate of hatred and hostility that was created after the 7 July bombs. We were not supposed to kill anyone. That bomb would not have been able to cause victims."
Hussain also denied any link to Al-Qaeda network.
"We never had contacts with the Bin Laden organization. We knew that they existed. We had access to their platforms through the internet, but nothing direct."
Eritrean-born Ibrahim, a would-be bomber, was arrested in west London on Friday. He is accused of trying to blow up a Number 26 double-decker bus.
The second, Ramzi Mohammad, is suspected of trying to set off his device in The Oval Underground train station.
A third, 24-year-old Somali-born Yassin Hassan Omar, was detained in a raid in the central city of Birmingham on Wednesday, July 27. He is wanted for the attempted bombing of a Victoria Line train near Warren Street.
The Metropolitan Police released the "girlfriends" of Ibrahim and Mohammad after being arrested Friday heading for London Stansted airport.
The Sunday Mirror quoted a security source as saying the pair were now being treated as witnesses rather than suspects.
Meanwhile, the family of Zambian-held London bombings suspect Haroon Aswat said they feared he may be extradited to face torture in the United States, and criticized Britain's handling of the situation.
The British national is suspected of links to the July 7 London bombings and is also wanted by US authorities over alleged attempts to set up a terrorist training camp in Bly, Oregon.
Third Group
Police officers maintain cordon outside flats in west London. (Reuters)
In another development, British security sources told the Sunday Times that a third terror cell is planning multiple suicide bomb attacks on London, reported Agence France-Presse (AFP).
The sources said that the terrorists were on the loose and planning further blasts on "soft" targets in the center of the city such as the Underground subway network.
The Times said intelligence of a third cell with access to explosives and plans to hit London with a third wave of attacks sparked Thursday's unprecedented deployment of 6,000 police officers on the city's streets.
A member of the Metropolitan Police's firearms unit which nabbed the suspected bombers Friday told the Sunday Times: "What we did on Friday was just the tip of the iceberg.
"There is some big stuff coming in the next few months. There's a big network that's got to be cracked."
British police were holding Sunday a total of 11 suspects in custody over the two waves of London bomb attacks this month.
All are being held on suspicion of being behind acts of terrorism, or harboring fugitives.
Searches have taken place at 14 addresses in London and two in Birmingham.
Fake Passports
The investigations have now generated over 5,300 separate police actions and detectives are examining 8,500 documents and 35,000 closed circuit television tapes.
A bag stuffed with bogus passports, documents and bank cards was found abandoned at London's Heathrow Airport, Britain's The News of the World reported Sunday.
The paper called the find a "potential terrorist goldmine" and said anti-terrorist officers were urgently probing the discovery.
The bag was spotted by a taxi driver on a verge near London's main airport on Thursday.
The 19 passports inside were for Pakistani, British, Indian, Nepalese and South African nationals.
The newspaper said pictures of the same men appear on different passports in different names.
Many passports had fake visas in different shades of ink from genuine documents.
31 July 2005, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by moses
its shocking how quickly he got to rome
When questioned about this the arch incompetent Geoff Hoon turned this issue into another advertisement to introduce ID cards. WTF is wrong with the passport checks that they removed?? Their attitude really beggars belief, turning their failures into spin in favour of ID cards!! Bunch of cvnts.
31 July 2005, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by unclebuck
Not really, because a year ago New Labour abandoned passport checks for out going Eurostar passengers at Waterloo, thus leaving the gate open for an easy escape.
When questioned about this the arch incompetent Geoff Hoon turned this issue into another advertisement to introduce ID cards. WTF is wrong with the passport checks that they removed?? Their attitude really beggars belief, turning their failures into spin in favour of ID cards!! Bunch of cvnts.
When questioned about this the arch incompetent Geoff Hoon turned this issue into another advertisement to introduce ID cards. WTF is wrong with the passport checks that they removed?? Their attitude really beggars belief, turning their failures into spin in favour of ID cards!! Bunch of cvnts.
true just watched the news but they say soon as they arrive in paris they get checked their
31 July 2005, 05:59 PM
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I hope they get some good leads out of these b@stards, and I hope they get a good knocking about while theyre getting info out too.
It'll be interesting to see what sentencing they get given, should be a lengthy spell behind bars followed by deportation.
It'll be interesting to see what sentencing they get given, should be a lengthy spell behind bars followed by deportation.
31 July 2005, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Petem95
I hope they get some good leads out of these b@stards, and I hope they get a good knocking about while theyre getting info out too.
It'll be interesting to see what sentencing they get given, should be a lengthy spell behind bars followed by deportation.
It'll be interesting to see what sentencing they get given, should be a lengthy spell behind bars followed by deportation.
did u not read today, dont know if its true, the lads said they have nothing to do with al qaida or the pakistani english boys of 7/7 its something they felt they had to do and not to kill people either thats why the bombs of different type were used not to kill anyone but to scare them for revenge of iraq
so isaac hamdi said the guy caught in rome
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Originally Posted by moses
did u not read today, dont know if its true, the lads said they have nothing to do with al qaida or the pakistani english boys of 7/7 its something they felt they had to do and not to kill people either thats why the bombs of different type were used not to kill anyone but to scare them for revenge of iraq
so isaac hamdi said the guy caught in rome
so isaac hamdi said the guy caught in rome
BOLOX these guys are as commited as the next....
dont tell me its going to be the soho 7 or somthing... wrongly convixcted and given a mint....
what ever happens these guys have earnt themselves a one way ticket out of the uk...
just thought of a lovely loaction still within the uk
Gruinyard, idyllic island where these misunderstood persons can make a new start at re integrating themselves into society.
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31 July 2005, 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by mart360
well they didnt do a good job on his one did they...
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true
their r probably 10 times more black folk in france so they probably thought he was one of theirs
or coz they hate the english they let him pass is the other reason
i do agree mart, he has to get punished for it no doubt, coz we dont even know if he is telling porkies , only people can tell r the bomb experts once they have a look at what kind of bombs were used
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Originally Posted by Leslie
Hoon is in Billy's pocket and will tell us exactly what he is told to say!
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who is billy or william
we dont have no william in power or is it blair
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